Screen Shots! Get them out!!!

[symmetricalsounds]

the other bits around the arrangement area can easily be made smaller/clicked away completelely.

[sixth sense]

the other bits around the arrangement area can easily be made smaller/clicked away completelely.

this

[futures_untold]

Surely the benefit of a 'one screen' approach is that workflow is improved with shorter mousing movements and fewer clicks?


As mentioned, GUI elements in most programs can be resized (FL included).

In Reaper, the mixer/file explorer window can be completely hidden with one key press, or simply resized by dragging the windows edges. It is also possible to resize the sequencer channels 'sidebar', in effect giving the user fullscreen sequencing! As each sequencer item can have its own effects in Reaper, you don't even need to use the mixer or sequencer channel sidebar to apply effects...

I know that both Cubendo and Reaper allow for custom screensets, so with the press of a button, the whole workflow can be changed to benefit the type of task at hand.

So our kid, join the 21st century and ditch FL studio for one of the big boys (like Reaper) hehe

[krispy]

Cannot stand the reaper, logic, ableton daws with their one screen design. Shit is retarded. People have more screen real estate then ever before and the ui designers are smashing everything into one screen. And you end up with little tiny arrange areas. That shit is so claustrophobic, I don't know how you lot get along.

I actually could have opened each individual track, i have everything squished up because I wanted to take a picture of the whole thing
There is alot more to it then just what I took a pic of

[nowaysj]

Sorry bros, I want my mixer where I want it, I want my arrange page where I want it. I've got two 22" monitors, and these one jam packed screen layouts just don't work, are more cumbersome. I can get from one corner of one screen to the other corner of the other screen in one mouse flick, so no detriment to work flow, and I can see everything all at once without having to key press, or resize a bunch of devices.

If you lot don't mind being told how to work and what to look at, by all means, stay inside that eency weency little box.

[futures_untold]

One of the reasons I like Reaper in particular is that it dispenses with the additional windows for things like a 'VST Rack' or FLs pattern sequencer. In fact, personally I find FL to be really cumbersome with so many windows stacking up on top of each other so quickly. (I don't benefit from a dual screen setup btw )

Anyway, here are a few more screenshots of Reaper with its windows arranged differently. If a user has a dual screen setup, the Mixer could sit on one screen and the sequencer on the second.

Dual screen setup - Monitor 1 - Fullscreen sequencer window


Dual screen setup - Monitor 2 - Mixer and midi piano-roll which displays the midi contents of any midi item which is double clicked in the main sequencer window.


Reaper with the mixer detached from the docker and resized as a side bar. On a dual monitor setup, this could be resized to take up the bottom portion of the second monitor, with plugins appearing above it.




Sequencer Wars!!!

[nowaysj]

Dual screen setup - Monitor 1


Dual screen setup - Monitor 2

There you go!

[Depone]

That reaper skin is teh sex!

Logic behaves in a similar way with its tabbed browsing between mixer/sequencer/piano roll/sample editor etc... But i think reaper takes the biscuit for customisability.

Thing is... how does it sound. A program with such a small footprint... makes me wonder. Care to shed light pat?

[wayoftheworld]

Look at that live pic... that arrange area is less than a 1/4 of the total screen real estate. It's like working on a 4 foot squared painting, but having to look at it through a shoe box, ridiculous. Anybody that sees this as progress is lost to me.

i guess since you dont actually use ableton you wouldn't know that in that pic he has the clip view, browser, and mixer expanded and enlarged quite a bit (all of which are collapsable), as well as being nearly completely zoomed out of the arrangement view, has each track collapsed, the in/out routing tab expanded, return tracks expanded, etc

if you're gonna be a hater, at least be informed about what you are talking about.

[sixth sense]

That reaper skin is teh sex!

I am also in love with that skin where can I get it or if its custom do you mind sharing? the ones I have at the moment are atrocious

[futures_untold]

@Nowaysj - Are you now saying that Reaper is sexy, and that your life was incomplete before you downloaded it??? http://www.reaper.fm/download.php

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The key here is choice.

Reaper allows users to work with plugins, the mixer and the midi piano-roll always docked, or messily like FL Studio on a single monitor.

Reaper with the mixer docked, Mackie Tracktion style.


Reaper with the midi piano-roll docked Mackie Tracktion style.


Reaper with the vst GUI docked Tracktion style.


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In this shot I'm working on a midi synth part. The midi piano-roll is open 'inline', that is, inside the main sequencer window instead of a in a separate window. The synth and insert effect are floated and arranged next to each other at the bottom of the screen while the mixer remains as a sidebar.

[futures_untold]

That's a custom 'Futures Untold' Reaper skin I've created.

I stole the slider image from a different skin, then edited the default Reaper skin to be silver instead of the horrid default. Finally, I set the colours of the text etc from the options menu.

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How does Reaper sound?

About the same as Cubendo, Logic, Live, Reason, FL and Renoise etc etc... The person using the program dictates the final output, not the program itself. I know it can support any sample rate and bit depth for the audio, and is available as a 64bit program, but that doesn't make something sound good by itself does it?

I can't really tell you about stats personally because I don't fully understand all the terminology used properly. If you're interested in stats, you can find out more by visiting http://www.reaper.fm/technical.php

I think the reason Reaper has such a small footprint is because it doesn't come bundled with a library of loops and sounds etc.

[nowaysj]

i guess since you dont actually use ableton you wouldn't know...

Who said I don't or haven't used live? Watch your assumptions, son. Live is the worst of the three, the least customizable. But it was designed for a single laptop screen in a performance situation, so it's understandable. But it is the most sofa king interface for production.

@Nowaysj - Are you now saying that Reaper is sexy, and that your life was incomplete before you downloaded it??? http://www.reaper.fm/download.php

No doubt reaper is sexy. It's been like watching a gangly 13 yo develop into a full bodied sexy woman. hubba hubba. But as you know, after demoing it two separate times through the course of it's development, it is not for me. If I had to go mobile and work on other peoples machines, I would snatch it up in a second.

@ deponer, are you saying that daws (other than reason) have differing qualities of sound engines?

[sixth sense]

Live is the worst of the three

[futures_untold]

Here's my custom Reaper theme ---> http://www.mediafire.com/?evdimwedtyn

Be advised that I've customised the toolbars that you can see in those shots too, so a default install will be different to my setup.

I've also installed the SWS extensions which expand Reapers functionality and Evildragon's Colour toolbar (which you can see in some shots).

For more info on customising your version of Reaper, I refer you to the DSF Reaper thread ---> http://www.dubstepforum.com/topic91084.html

To switch to Reaper now, download it for free from http://www.reaper.fm/download.php








(Damned, I wish I got paid for all this promo work)...

[nowaysj]

Least flexible, can't deny that.

[futures_untold]

No doubt reaper is sexy. It's been like ganging a full bodied sexy woman. Hubba hubba!

If I had to go mobile and work on other peoples machines, I would snatch it up in a second.

Download Reaper.

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[paravrais]

Least flexible, can't deny that.

Depends what you mean by flexible the way I have my setup is so that in one window I have the reason sequencer and in another I have abletons mixer, if I had two monitors I would have the same mixer/sequencer setup you can achieve with other programs. Putting the two together creates a beast imo :p

DAW WARS!!

Futures Untold I really feel you *should* be being paid for all this Reaper promo you do. Sometimes I wonder that maybe your the head of the company that create it and are here undercover.. >_>

Personally I've always found Reaper quite fiddly, it's the hardest(or maybe just longest) to use DAW I have ever tried (actually except for renoise). I do think it's great for the money though.

Oh one last thing, on the subject of different DAWS having different sounding output I think Reason clearly sounds flat, FL sounds a tiny bit 'cheap' and reaper sounds a little tinny without rewiring into something else (though I'm not sure bout reaper, that could just be cos I sucked at producing when I last tried to use it)

[futures_untold]

I'm not an employee of any software company.

If I was, do you really think I'd be sitting here at midnight on a Friday night advetising to some random forum dwellers??

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As mentioned above, the sound quality of any 'DAW' depends solely on the user. All the main apps today feature hi-fi sound engines, and many producers can be given as an example of how each program can sound great (Widdler - Reason, Depone - Logic, Serox - FL Studio etc).

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Reaper is fiddly upon a default install with those horrible long menus and gross 'rounded' GUI. (pukes)

In fact, I hated the default so much I customised it the way I liked it, including the toolbars, context menus and theme...

But then that's a good thing, because no other DAW is flexible enough to accomodate for users personal workflow & visual preferences.

Depone summed it up - Reaper = customisability king!

[wayoftheworld]

i guess since you dont actually use ableton you wouldn't know...

Who said I don't or haven't used live? Watch your assumptions, son. Live is the worst of the three, the least customizable. But it was designed for a single laptop screen in a performance situation, so it's understandable. But it is the most sofa king interface for production

considering that anybody who's read this forum for longer than a month knows that you're an avid fruity user, and that i've seen you bitching about ableton before, i'd say it's a fairly just assumption that you're not currently using it to produce

and the fact that you think ableton is lacking screen real estate because of a picture where nearly everything is expanded just kinda leads me to believe that if you did know the program, you'd realize that most of the shit taking up screen space in that picture can be collapsed, allowing for a hell of a lot more screen real estate.

and sure, fruity may be working out great for you on two 22" monitors, but eliminate one of them and shit gets cluttered pretty quick.