Sorry in advance: Sub in Massive

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Re: Sorry in advance: Sub in Massive

Post by JFK » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:53 pm

bilsner wrote:After reading a comment on this very forum I ditched the sub i was using in albino and looped a small (1 cycle) section of the tail of an 808 kick and I have to say the results were a MUCH more usable sub and if I were to pick one word to describe it .. MEATY would spring to mind. Give it a go it may be exactly what you want, it was for me altho YMMV.
808 kicks are a sine wave with some white noise added. Thats what gives you the meatyness. 808 subs are wicked man.

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Re: Sorry in advance: Sub in Massive

Post by nowaysj » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:36 pm

Project_B wrote:
corpu5 wrote:lol a sine wave is just a sine wave. wtf is all this nonsense, sub-basses are like the simplest thing ha

while thats true, massive's sine, in my opinion, sounds thinner than the sine sub I can get from 3x3osc
I'm with you on this.
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Re: Sorry in advance: Sub in Massive

Post by staticcast » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:06 pm

JFK wrote:
bilsner wrote:After reading a comment on this very forum I ditched the sub i was using in albino and looped a small (1 cycle) section of the tail of an 808 kick and I have to say the results were a MUCH more usable sub and if I were to pick one word to describe it .. MEATY would spring to mind. Give it a go it may be exactly what you want, it was for me altho YMMV.
808 kicks are a sine wave with some white noise added. Thats what gives you the meatyness. 808 subs are wicked man.
Not quite. There are harmonics in there, and no (or very little) white noise. The harmonics give it a certain body.

Project_B wrote: while thats true, massive's sine, in my opinion, sounds thinner than the sine sub I can get from 3x3osc
Could someone with FL send me a 24 bit WAV of a couple of cycles of a 3osc sine? I'd be curious to see if it's actually any different. The Massive sine wave is a perfect sine, give or take -100 dB or so of inaudible distortion. Would be interested to see if 3osc isn't.
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Re: Sorry in advance: Sub in Massive

Post by victoryaloy » Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:24 pm

Project_B wrote: while thats true, massive's sine, in my opinion, sounds thinner than the sine sub I can get from 3x3osc
I agree with this.. well i've never tried 3x3osc but massive's sine does seems weak. I usually tend to lowpass a square wave.. and some times throw a saw in there

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Re: Sorry in advance: Sub in Massive

Post by nowaysj » Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:47 pm

Got on my machine to make those samples for you yesterday. Still haven't done it. Will have to wait the better part of another day. :cry:
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Re: Sorry in advance: Sub in Massive

Post by NoirPantalon » Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:26 am

The thing I don't get though the 808 Kick won't isn't exactly a note so it wouldn't work harmonically with things would it?
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Re: Sorry in advance: Sub in Massive

Post by jsills » Sat Jul 17, 2010 6:44 pm

paravrais wrote:
dav.id wrote:
paravrais wrote:Don't make your sub in massive. There's no point.
why not?

lots of signed artists use it
Yes, I'm not dissing massive (thats another debate for another time, I personally don't really like it but that's not what I'm on about here) it's too powerful to waste on a sub, any synth with a sine wave oscillator will do, most people just use a stock synth that came with their daw for their sub.
So true, i use operator for sub a lot of the time and it rocks. people compliment the sound all the time.

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Re: Sorry in advance: Sub in Massive

Post by nowaysj » Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:19 pm

static_cast wrote:Could someone with FL send me a 24 bit WAV of a couple of cycles of a 3osc sine? I'd be curious to see if it's actually any different. The Massive sine wave is a perfect sine, give or take -100 dB or so of inaudible distortion. Would be interested to see if 3osc isn't.
This is 32 bit, hope that's okay.

http://www.mediafire.com/?6r3krlchv2tt51w

http://www.mediafire.com/?nfhz9c7noomog04

Okay, this is an 8 bar loop of pure sines starting at A, each note is just about a half note at 140bpm.
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