A good musician can make any idea work

[Depone]

Yeah, I feel you. I read this thread while demoing some smart phones down at the mall. Think I was misreading you. Your term "simple" I think I was reading as something else.

Yeah understood.

[nowaysj]

But a question, I wanted to ask, could like a good musician make chopsticks the most powerful song ever? I'm sure you could, if you chopped it up (no pun, I swear), but with those actual musical phrases?

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And thinking back around to the original question, I really do think a producer can make any idea work, but in extreme cases it requires genius. I really believe in the notion of genius, the ability to see millions of potentials, and find just the right path through suckage into works that are transformative.

I also think genius is extremely rare. For the average producer, I think it would be best to drop ideas that don't work, and just try to move on to ideas that have more obvious potential. Beware here though, because this is the path towards mediocrity.

[yong]

I didn't read the rest of the thread.


To state it simply, a "good musician" wouldn't use the bad idea.

[Recessive Trait]

we could get into the whole current-state-of-indie-rock-and-pop-music discussion here (it's all shit, but sells like hotcakes - does that make it good or are the musicians good?), but instead...

this is an interesting choice of topics coming from someone who won't let anyone else hear his music. or are you still trying to figure out how to get something useful out of sytrus?

[Wikum]

And thinking back around to the original question, I really do think a producer can make any idea work, but in extreme cases it requires genius. I really believe in the notion of genius, the ability to see millions of potentials, and find just the right path through suckage into works that are transformative.

yea...this question makes me think about film composers like hans zimmer. this is verging on whacky, completely mad and genius at the same time:

[Ongelegen]

^ very interesting watch

[crytek]

As long as you still feel that it could work. Then yes. But as stated before, it's knowing when an idea is worth pursuing and when it's just time to let it go and move on.

[back2onett]

^ very interesting watch

agreed

As long as you still feel that it could work. Then yes. But as stated before, it's knowing when an idea is worth pursuing and when it's just time to let it go and move on.

but then if any idea can be made to work doesn't that mean that every idea is worth pursuing?

this is an interesting choice of topics coming from someone who won't let anyone else hear his music. or are you still trying to figure out how to get something useful out of sytrus?

oh you...

[back2onett]

Just to say again I don't really agree with the title (I think part of being a good musician is being able to prioritise ideas by practicallity; which ideas can be realised fairly easily/quickly and which ones will take a bit longer. I just want to hear some opinions from fellow producers.

[crytek]

As long as you still feel that it could work. Then yes. But as stated before, it's knowing when an idea is worth pursuing and when it's just time to let it go and move on.

but then if any idea can be made to work doesn't that mean that every idea is worth pursuing?

There are ideas that does lead to a dead end. As mentioned you can incorporate parts of the failed idea into other productions. Sometime stuff, despite the effort put into it, just won't work. Even after you sit on the tune for a while and then come back to it later. Or one can just finish the tune anyway just for the sake of finishing the tune, but then, think of what would have happened if you had placed all that effort into one idea that is bad into an idea that you are really into. There could have been something really special.

This is all really subjective though. Is there a right answer? Probably, probably not.