Question For The Dubstep Purists

[er98ah]

i agree, i think that whole Magnetic Man is their commercial alter egos. I can understand their viewpoint. They want to grow, they want more money, they want more exposure. My concern is that Skream and Benga go down the same route as Pendulum and that dubstep in general goes down the same route as dnb. Oh well, I am sure there will always be new genres and good music.

[Ludovico]

I had no idea who Magnetic Man were...

This post has ruined my Friday

[ashley]

i agree, i think that whole Magnetic Man is their commercial alter egos. I can understand their viewpoint. They want to grow, they want more money, they want more exposure. My concern is that Skream and Benga go down the same route as Pendulum and that dubstep in general goes down the same route as dnb. Oh well, I am sure there will always be new genres and good music.

So be it.

There will also be new artists that will be ready to fill that void.

[chico_red]

i agree, i think that whole Magnetic Man is their commercial alter egos. I can understand their viewpoint. They want to grow, they want more money, they want more exposure. My concern is that Skream and Benga go down the same route as Pendulum and that dubstep in general goes down the same route as dnb. Oh well, I am sure there will always be new genres and good music.

Did you not hear the last Skream & Benga Rinse show? They have so many sick dirty sounding dubs!!!! Just because they made a couple of poppy tunes, why does everyone assume that this is all they will do from now on??

[Phigure]

Oh well, I am sure there will always be new genres and good music.

Future garage!

[fractal]

Oh well, I am sure there will always be new genres and good music.

Future garage!

still just called dubstep

[knivez]

benga and skream deserve the fame! and obviously, being signed to a major under the moniker magnetic man, they are going to have to hit a wider audience but who deserves it more then benga and skream

[Phigure]

benga and skream deserve the fame! and obviously, being signed to a major under the moniker magnetic man, they are going to have to hit a wider audience but who deserves it more then benga and skream

kode9

[fractal]

OMG, literal LOL!!



nicely done

[Phigure]

i fall asleep with that picture under my pillow every night

[fractal]

delsih

[illandnatti]

waste............

a good tune is a good tune regardless.

music is all personal preference though aint it, if you dont like it dont listen to it

I agree it's all just your opinion. However, what I'm asking is for opinions from people who have been listening to the genre longer than me in order to further my own 'preferences' and deepen my taste in the genre.


Thanks to all that replied. Imma do lots of research so to speak.

[slothrop]

It does seem to me sometimes that many on here seem to also be ignorant to the concepts of the influences of women (when you gonna bring some fucking money in or get a real job etc), kids and mortgages etc - sure some djs are blantantly trying to get paid as much as possible as quickly as possible and have no commitments in their life other than their own egos but many of us are just trying to get by and mabeye in the current climate have to compromise a bit on what projects we take and some of the music we write to make ends meet. Seems a pretty fucking stupid situation on this forum when theres a big silence over the biggest names in the scene getting some major £ (not that im saying they should be getting any grief over it as its a good thing) yet other producers get called a sellout for putting out a sample cd or a filthy 12 that sells barely more than 1000 copies etc?

TBH I don't hate on people for making music that I don't like to make money, it's a bit sad if they've stopped making the amazing tunes they're capable of to make stuff they aren't so into because it pays the bills, but it's their life not mine. I'm a software engineer ffs so it's not like I can moan at other people about what they do to make ends meet

In general, my experience has been that four or five years ago, most dance music was fairly boring and predictable and dubstep was this amazing little niche at the margin where pretty much the whole scene was about people making edgy exciting unpredictable music and where a tune could break every rule going and still mash up a dance, these days dubstep has its own predictable mainstream and its own exciting scenes at the margin. And TBH Borgore or Datsik or Mt Eden or whatever have about as much impact on my life as anthem trance or clownstep did back in 2006, so I don't really see it as something to get worked up over.

[truefiktion]

Skream has never failed to impress from the beginning and i still think he is in another level compared to other artists but he is closely followed by the DMZ and Deep Medi crew. Caspa and Rusko are inconsistent so aint gonna big them up whereas Skream is very consistent with good tunes

[archer]

Skream is very consistent with good tunes

I don`t find him that consistent TBH. He makes 10 tunes from like 3 are mid range wobbles 5 are ok tunes and 2 good tunes. I like the fact that he is multisubgender producer, he is never the less a very good producer..but not consistent at all

[uncle bill]

I’m no purist and it’s difficult to know where dubstep begins and ends these days but for me these people are pretty reliable:

Shackleton
Loefah
Mala
Coki
Pinch
Kode 9
Guido
Ikonika
Appleblim
Vex’d / Jamie Vex’d
BURIAL ffsake!
Silkie
Joker
Gemmy
Ramadanman
Kryptic Minds
Headhunter
Scuba
2562
Distance
Forsaken
TRG
Goth Trad
Darkstar
Zomby
Untold
Peverelist

I could easily go on. I nearly did.

Magnetic Man isn't my thing, but there's nothing wrong with making pop music. S & B have turned out enough legendary dubs between them to deserve a payday.

[chico_red]

Skream is very consistent with good tunes

I don`t find him that consistent TBH. He makes 10 tunes from like 3 are mid range wobbles 5 are ok tunes and 2 good tunes. I like the fact that he is multisubgender producer, he is never the less a very good producer..but not consistent at all

Consistent in style no.. but certainly consistent in quality. Just because he uses a mid-range wobble it makes it bad? I don't particularly listen to his more ambient stuff, but it doesn't make it better or worse in my eyes.

[archer]

I don`t find him consistent in quality, he is not the kind of producer you say you can peak any tune cuz is mental, don`t get me wrong, I`m not haiting him at all, but some of his tunes are like his indie haircut..just don`t match

[lee uhf]

So yes there is a lot of hating on new styles of dubstep (bro-step, mellow-step, robo-step, whatever-the-fuck-step). Everyone has said it, and most everyone has contributed in one way or another (present company included), some of the shit that comes out these days just isn't good.

What I want to know (and this is a question for people who have been listening to dubstep for years now, not the noobs who think they know what dub is after hearing Skream's 'In For The Kill' remix) is what artists do you guys feel are putting out good music today among all the riff raff?

Yes I know that Benga, for example is or has been somewhat of a rockstar and he has made a lot of tunes that I think everyone can agree on are awesome. However, even he is going off the deep end a bit, it seems, with this whole Magnetic Man thing.


This is definitely not something I would personally expect the guy to make and put out under his name, but I guess it pays the bills. So who do you guys support still?

In answer to the original question.

Your gonna always have silly little sub-genre names coming out in every scene not just dubstep, Ive spent time in a few scenes and think of myself as quite knowledgable in alot of music genre's and its the same in each one, not just dubstep.

So long as you try your hardest not to get tied down to this sub-genres early on in your production/djing career you should be ok

Ill not lie I did get into Dubstep in Late 2006, but I was listenig to allsorts of stuff before that and even had a phase of really liking the original grime sound it came from back in 2002/2003 or so but got put off quite a bit by the Mcs but unfortunetely back then I never discovered Hatcha and Co. so didnt see that there was an alternative route.

For the past few years I always thought Benga, Skream etc were really commercial because I discovered them through commercial remixes (aka La Roux etc) and didnt really take to the solo tracks early on, This was mainly due to my perception of underground darker beats (which I always seem to go for in genres) been the likes of Broken Note, Tech Itch etc.

Obviously loving the darker underground stuff I wanted to try and find something "harder" then came the likes of Datsik, Excision etc into my life,

The past year Ive kind of done a 180 if you will as now I hear stuff like Datsik which is still quite "hard" and funtcase is just cheesy hard.

Where as now Im completely in love with the Skream /Benga sound as it seems really pure, clean, sometimes minimal, sometimes dark, sometimes bouncy. It has everything and above all a signiture to the sound no matter what style and the production is a cut above it all. even the really heavy full on Excision productions.

Right now Im alot more into Skream And Benga, more than Datsik etc. and the main thing I like about them is even though they do chuck out the big commiercial garage anthem style beats (I actually really like I Need Air) they do keep it very underground, which doesnt happen alot in other scenes, because as soon as someone "makes it" if you will, they seem to sell out musically a bit as well. If not alot.

[chico_red]

I don`t find him consistent in quality, he is not the kind of producer you say you can peak any tune cuz is mental, don`t get me wrong, I`m not haiting him at all, but some of his tunes are like his indie haircut..just don`t match

Just saw ur from Bucharest I'm playing at the Nero gig on 1st October!