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Making These Sine Ways

Post by Wabberjocky » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:18 am

...all crunchy and stuff, so I can sample and make some bass with force. How do you do it?

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Re: Making These Sine Ways

Post by wormcode » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:37 am

Creating sine waves? Any synth really, just use a single oscillator set to sine/sinus/~ or use something like Sound Forge or Audacity (free multiplatform) and use its built in synthesis engine to create a sine wave at your desired frequency, then loop it.

Making it "crunchy" I guess distortion. Try some saturation or other light distortion, but the more harmonics you add the less it becomes a sine wave.
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Re: Making These Sine Ways

Post by wormcode » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:38 am

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Re: Making These Sine Ways

Post by glottis5 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:53 am

I've had a lot of luck taking a sample of a sine wave converting it to an extremely low bitrate mp3 and using that... also putting it through a reel to reel and a cassette tape... just something to give a subtle amount of grit so it doesn't sound so digital and computery.

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Re: Making These Sine Ways

Post by In The Shadows » Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:42 am

I never run sines pure without some kind of midrange to back em up, even if its just a sub bassline with no reesey growl I still find a thin layer or harmonics really bring sout the tone. Personaly I go for triangle waves, maybe a light distortion/chorus/crush etc, then high passed + low passed and put over the sine. By itself the triangle layer is just a pathetic little wash of harmonics mainly around the 150-350hz area that seems too quite to be doing anything but when the sine is layered beneeth it just gives it a little bit of tone to bite into. If you push the distortion far enough eventually you end up with a Goatstare type sound, but used a little lighter it just sounds like a slightly warm sine.

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Re: Making These Sine Ways

Post by Promise One » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:24 pm

glottis5 wrote:I've had a lot of luck taking a sample of a sine wave converting it to an extremely low bitrate mp3 and using that... also putting it through a reel to reel and a cassette tape... just something to give a subtle amount of grit so it doesn't sound so digital and computery.
I've tried running pure sine bass through a revox tape recorder (at 15ips) and I don't recommend it. The type of distortion you get from tape doesn't work well on low frequencies below 70hz imo. It took away the power and sounded weak in comparison.

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Re: Making These Sine Ways

Post by In The Shadows » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:41 pm

Promise One wrote:
glottis5 wrote:I've had a lot of luck taking a sample of a sine wave converting it to an extremely low bitrate mp3 and using that... also putting it through a reel to reel and a cassette tape... just something to give a subtle amount of grit so it doesn't sound so digital and computery.
I've tried running pure sine bass through a revox tape recorder (at 15ips) and I don't recommend it. The type of distortion you get from tape doesn't work well on low frequencies below 70hz imo. It took away the power and sounded weak in comparison.
did you try high passing out the fundamental and layering it with a fresh sine?

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Re: Making These Sine Ways

Post by Wabberjocky » Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:46 pm

some interesting things to try out here thanks.

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Post by paravrais » Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:28 pm

The problem with some of the tips people have given here is that it might sound good on headphones/listening at home with effects processing on your sub but when you play it out in a club it will sound like cack. Pure sine, one osc, seriously. Why make it more complicated. If you want to change the feel of the bassline subtley do it in the low mids like someone mentioned above.

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Re: Making These Sine Ways

Post by Dr Tako » Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:39 pm

"by paravrais » Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:28 am The problem with some of the tips people have given here is that it might sound good on headphones/listening at home with effects processing on your sub but when you play it out in a club it will sound like cack. Pure sine, one osc, seriously. Why make it more complicated. "


Totally agree.

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Re: Making These Sine Ways

Post by back2onett » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:02 pm

that sine looks a bit too crunchy to bit just a bit of distortion, looks like a lot of added harmonics in there and then maybe some distortion on top of that
How does I wobbled bass?

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Re: Making These Sine Ways

Post by Wabberjocky » Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:01 pm

adding harmonics, as in laying multiple sines and pitchshifting them, or just detuning?

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Re: Making These Sine Ways

Post by Basic A » Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:39 pm

in the image you posted, its going through a tube/tube emulation unit. but I think that might be svere enough its not really a 'sub' anymore... idk... the image is to fucked to try n load as waveform, so ive no idea what that sounds like.

I recommend greasetube with the mic position set to far and then gain it up to compensate.
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Re: Making These Sine Ways

Post by back2onett » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:50 pm

Wabberjocky wrote:adding harmonics, as in laying multiple sines and pitchshifting them, or just detuning?
As in it adding individual sine waves at different pitches which is basically what an additive synth does
How does I wobbled bass?

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