This Is England '86

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Re: This Is England '86

Post by tr0tsky » Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:57 am

LOL is the most ironically named character in any TV program I've yet to come across.
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Re: This Is England '86

Post by kingldub » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:01 am

Hoping for another series actually, realy enjoyed it. The abrupt ending would leave me to believe there's more story to be told.

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Re: This Is England '86

Post by apmje » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:40 am

I hope there won't be to be fair. Overall, wee bit disapointed at it all. Far to grim and not enough comedy. Loved Combos redemption, probably the best way for his character to end. Really liked Lol in the film too, now shes just turned into a drama queen. Highlight for me was Lol's sister though, more from her!!

Oh and Woody is an amazing character.

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Re: This Is England '86

Post by RandomEyez » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:59 am

tr0tsky wrote:LOL is the most ironically named character in any TV program I've yet to come across.
Haha, true dat.

I really enjoyed the series. Yes its possible to find faults in it, but i try not to overly assess movies and TV too much. Do that with music so its nice to have something you like that you can sit back and enjoy for what it is and not feel the need to be a heavy critic.

Thought it was quite an emotionally powerful little series though, always like to watch something that touches on hard-hitting subjects like that. And I do like the way you'd be one minute you'd have a lump in your throat cos of what you've just witnessed, then it would cut to a funny bit, then right back to the grim shit again.

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Re: This Is England '86

Post by faust.dtc » Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:06 am

A few things that are still puzzling me: How did Combo know where Shauns new house was, how did the gang become friends with Harvey when they didnt know who he was in the film, how did Milky get more acting work, what was the real point of the biker gang, why didnt Kelly get her tits out, why the fuck did Woody wake up spooning Milky and why was we given a brief shitty montage as an ending.

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Re: This Is England '86

Post by therapist » Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:29 am

faust.dtc wrote:A few things that are still puzzling me: How did Combo know where Shauns new house was, how did the gang become friends with Harvey when they didnt know who he was in the film, how did Milky get more acting work, what was the real point of the biker gang, why didnt Kelly get her tits out, why the fuck did Woody wake up spooning Milky and why was we given a brief shitty montage as an ending.
Some of those don't need explaining though I think. A lot could happen in 3 years, though I don't see how Shaun could ever be mates with Harvey.

The biker gang was funny but that seems like a whole different program to the main rapey rapey theme. I could see that being part of a shitty longrunning skinsy kind of series- weirdly the only two good actors ever to be in skins were in this, and were actually good.

The ending was weird.

The main thing puzzling me is why I'm bothered about any of this. It's a tv program.

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Post by LA_Boxers » Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:31 am

faust.dtc wrote:A few things that are still puzzling me: How did Combo know where Shauns new house was, how did the gang become friends with Harvey when they didnt know who he was in the film, how did Milky get more acting work, what was the real point of the biker gang, why didnt Kelly get her tits out, why the fuck did Woody wake up spooning Milky and why was we given a brief shitty montage as an ending.
Yeah alot of unanswered questions. maybe could have done with another episode or something?! The biker gang should defo get their own serious tho!!
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Re: This Is England '86

Post by faust.dtc » Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:41 am

therapist wrote:The main thing puzzling me is why I'm bothered about any of this. It's a tv program.
This is a very good point. I enjoyed both the film and the series but to be honest both are a bit over rated when I think about the actual quality of the content.

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Re: This Is England '86

Post by hackman » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:31 pm

faust.dtc wrote:A few things that are still puzzling me: How did Combo know where Shauns new house was, how did the gang become friends with Harvey when they didnt know who he was in the film, how did Milky get more acting work, what was the real point of the biker gang, why didnt Kelly get her tits out, why the fuck did Woody wake up spooning Milky and why was we given a brief shitty montage as an ending.

i'm sure combo could have asked people where shaun lived, wouldn't be that hard

the series is a number of years after the film, so surely it's not hard to imagine the group getting to know harvey in that time?
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Re: This Is England '86

Post by DZA » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:45 pm

Was kind of a shit ending imo :(
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Re: This Is England '86

Post by mashmash » Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:59 pm

i think they put harvey in it because none of the other original cast who were part of the original gang chose to return

it still seems stupid why they seem to act like they've known him all his life though and it still seems stupid that combo's henchman is all friends with them
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Re: This Is England '86

Post by Hibbie » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:21 pm

Referring to the scene with lol smashing her father round the head with the hammer; it seemed as though they were told to improvise the build up, didn't work very well imo
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Re: This Is England '86

Post by faust.dtc » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:23 pm

Hibbie wrote:Referring to the scene with lol smashing her father round the head with the hammer; it seemed as though they were told to improvise the build up, didn't work very well imo
I thought the same, Lols improv came across pretty awkward at this point.

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Re: This Is England '86

Post by capo ultra » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:23 pm

I thought that scene was excellent actually. The awkwardness brought a natural feel to the scene. Things don't go smoothly in real life.
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Re: This Is England '86

Post by hackman » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:32 pm

capo ultra wrote:I thought that scene was excellent actually. The awkwardness brought a natural feel to the scene. Things don't go smoothly in real life.
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Re: This Is England '86

Post by faust.dtc » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:36 pm

hackman wrote:i'm sure combo could have asked people where shaun lived, wouldn't be that hard
None of the gang knew Combo was back and even if they did I doubt they would have told him Shauns address as they didnt like him. I doubt Combo was in any state to play detective with blood dripping from his head and him stumbling about.

Even Smell didnt realise Shaun had moved, even after she was sitting in his new house. She was a bit thick though.
hackman wrote:the series is a number of years after the film, so surely it's not hard to imagine the group getting to know harvey in that time?
Just seemed like an odd addition to introduce to the gang. He didnt really have any substance, him getting beaten by his dad seem to be squeezed into the plot briefly and pointlessly.

Just thought the story didnt gel well together.

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Re: This Is England '86

Post by symmetricalsounds » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:38 pm

faust.dtc wrote: Just thought the story didnt gel well together.
exactly

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Re: This Is England '86

Post by Hibbie » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:38 pm

capo ultra wrote:I thought that scene was excellent actually. The awkwardness brought a natural feel to the scene. Things don't go smoothly in real life.
Yeh yeh of course I know exactly what you mean but it seemed obvious that they were told to improvise, it seemed unnatural awkwardness if that makes sense,
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Re: This Is England '86

Post by HamCrescendo » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:42 pm

Lols dad was rapin errbody out here.


I heard paddy considine was supposed to be in this briefly, but I didnt spot him.

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Re: This Is England '86

Post by therapist » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:44 pm

faust.dtc wrote: He didnt really have any substance, him getting beaten by his dad seem to be squeezed into the plot briefly and pointlessly.
Yeah, didn't really get that. I think there were intentionally some red herrings though, and some bits like that were just showing everyone has their problems, even if they don't go into detail.

It seemed like they were trying to leave lots of potential directions for the story to go, and just didn't bother tieing up the loose ones.

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