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deadly habit wrote: i appreciate current autechre and the older stuff
btw, you dont think Auterchre have lost sight of it all? have you seen them out at all? I have seen them a number of times. I love the stuff they use to put out on Warp records in the 90s, loved it. But I have seen them 2 in the last 5 years and have had to walk out very disappointed. They have flopped it in my eyes and the music is like something made by Nasa to communicate with aliens
although i don't really agree with what serox is saying i actually get his point. and although i don't think his point is backed up by valid points, i don't think anybody really suggested a counter-argument besides "well that makes you closed-minded then" which is woefully ironic considering the circumstances.
i think it's great that somebody feels passionately enough about something to say they hate it. i for one like venetian snares but i do believe he is a fairly cool artist. but hey it comes with the IDM territory. you are inevitably going to attract a certain type of listener.
i love some types of music and i hate other types of music. but i wouldn't go saying that the type of music i hated sucked UNLESS i really hated and i had a lot of valid argument to back it up.
there's no harm in talking about music. we all don't have to appreciate everything.
opinions on someones sound or style really has no place on a board about talking their techniques.
there's plenty of music i'd say i dislike, but i def can respect and learn from some of the techniques they use (see the majority of pop music).
Detrimentalist and 1961 were his last albums worth noting. Filth is bad and My So-Called Life is a more juvenile, less focused version of Detrimentalist imo.
Hurtdeer wrote:
Haven't heard his latest. Bass solo album was alright but I don't put it on much. Didn't like Just a Souvenir that much but appreciated he was trying something different, so I've been meaning to give it another go. Hello Meow I loved for a little while and then suddenly got really boring. Number Lucent seemed like a bad impression of his old work. Loved more or less everything previously. Does any of this matter? What's with all this pigeonholing?
Seriously man, are you saying you think this music is rubbish because people who like it tend to like this other thing? Why?
I dont like it because I think it is pretentious.
I also went on to say that nearly everyone I have met and seen on a forum who likes VS seem to be alike thats all.
I mentioned A'ture and thought you and Deadly Rabit may like their new stuff (more pretentious rubbish from people I use to be well into and I am not alone in thinking that) and also S'pusher. Apprently it is cool to say you use to like old pusher, but not new. And it is now cool to say you like current A'ture, but not old. Weird pattern I noticed between people who like VS. It is also common to see these people on forums a lot moaning and feeling all depressed while they take time out from programming. Weird.
It's not 'cool' to say you like old pusher tunes but not new. It is obvious that this might be the case with a lot of people since the older tunes often had a dn/jungle vibe, and the newer ones are completely different. Same for any artist that naturally develops. Im sure there are tones of ppl who dont like the old stuff and only ike the new stuff
everyone with ears can hear that Vsnares is a quality producer. as for the drums. they're mostly chopped up samples and breaks. he tends to use a lot of jazz stuff now thats recorded for him to work with. over the top of that come fucked up drum hits.
I think the key is to make these drum loops at a reasonable tempo, where u can easily get in there and edit the crap out of it, and then speed it up hella fast so that it is almost incomprehensible and sorta blows ur mind. After the drums are super fast he usually throws in some kind of synth or sample at a slower time, like half time or whatever so that while the drums are going absolutely nuts, the slower melody kinda glues it all together. That, and put like 20 or 30 hours into a track b4 u call it finished so that theres tons of diversity.
Now, for my two cents on the drama. lol I don't see how a style of music can be pretentious. People can be pretentious, and the people who you have met that listen to said music can also be pretentious, but music cannot. And even if all the folks that u have met who listen to that music are pretentious does that mean that everyone who likes it is? With that line of thinking i bet you feel that all black folks are gang banging thugs huh? Sounds like a broad generalization to me.
More than that is the topic of listening to what is "Hot" this week and all that bull.
If something is "Hot", am I a bandwagon jumper if i happen to like it?
Or could it just possibly be that I heard a combination of sounds and silences rhythmically organized in a manner that i found pleasing to the ear?
I like all KINDSA shit and it doesnt matter to me whether its the most obscure unheard of track or number one on the charts. If its good, its good. A rose by any other name is still a rose.
O and i almost forgot, Radiohead has been around since the late 80s. They have been producing amazing music for like 20 something years dude...
Electric_Head wrote:After Empire is like the Robert Mugabe of thread creators.
He`ll promise you the world but just get Syphilis and start talking about Imperialist organ grinding monkeys.
i appreciate current autechre and the older stuff
