Automating lfo in logic

[judge_banks]

Hey all

I've been doing all of my dubstep production in Reason for the last year so that I could learn the software and the possibilities it had to offer. Prior to that all of my recording was done in Logic (mostly rock music) so I'm quite familiar with it. Now I'm about to start my first dubstep project in Logic (because I WAY prefer ultrabeat to redrum, and certainly logic's fx to those of reason) and was looking for some advice/tips/tricks. Specifically with automating LFO. I just find that automating lfo is a really precise, up-and-down sort of thing, and the task of drawing in every little bit of it in Logic seems dauting, whereas with reason or ableton it seems a bit more intuitive and simple (and there are multiple ways to do it i.e. sometimes in reason i use the matrix pattern sequencer to control filter cutoff). My computer isn't fast enough to run both at the same time through rewire (believe me i'm desperately saving for a new laptop), so any advice anyone can offer about automation, or general cool shit you can do in logic would be immensely appreciated.

THANKS

[Swanwickk]

i think usually with the lfos you do it in the synth so you either have the option of doing it manually with the automation tool or setting the plugin/synth to lfo whatever you want it to (if it can)
one of the things logics lacking in really

[Trebek]

Press command+L and it will bring up the MIDI learn box then click on whatever you would like to automate then twist the knob/fader/whatever you would like to be to automate that command, make sure you move it fully up/down or left/right whichever it may be.

[judge_banks]

Press command+L and it will bring up the MIDI learn box then click on whatever you would like to automate then twist the knob/fader/whatever you would like to be to automate that command, make sure you move it fully up/down or left/right whichever it may be.

I know that the whole MIDI learn thing is supposed to be extremely simple in Logic, but no matter what I do I absolutely cannot get it to work with my axiom 25. I don't know if it's because I had no idea what I was doing in my first 2-3 years with logic and I permanently messed something up or what. But trying to use command+L usually presents more problems than solutions for me. I've done plenty of reading and asking around on the subject too. But thanks for the advice anyways. I guess I could do it with my mouse if I wanted to.

[Wrigzilla]

If it's really vexing you that much, bounce different LFO rates and then mix and match the audio files.

[ninjadog]

Another way I have seen it done is to copy your synth but on each copy change the lfo rate and mute tracks not being used. But to me that seems almost like a Reason workaround...Sorry I am not more help, I would like to know how to automate as well since I am just learning Logic after being on Reason for almost a decade. I have to agree ultrtabeat kicks redrums ass.

[Trebek]

This is what I had to do to get my keyboard working with Logic.

Go into your settings tab 2nd from inspector in your top toolbar...Then synchronization>MIDI, Then choose destination 1...Make sure your keyboard is plugged in then choose it from the drop down menu. You can do that for the MTC drop down as well then check the two boxes down at the bottom as well.

Thats what get my keyboard to full work with Logic.

[Ldizzy]

i posted this question months ago...

chewie's post on alpaca automation is prolly the most useful...

go to the logic q&a thread... and read as much as you can.

my advice : write decent alpaca porn scenario before u click around too much : start with a rate that will make everypart of your beat happy, and play a fun melody. then build the rest logically, from the beginning, bit by bit, going further on ur bars each time, and see where it takes u.

now one thing is important to understand : all programs will have easy taskhandling manuvas and really hard ones, not the same for all program : they all have strenghts and weaknesses. logic may not be the most intuitive automation handler out there, but for me, it helped stress the pertinence of doing SIMPLE stuff that sounds GOOD (or at least stuff that tries to sound good). i try to get a proper drum and sub intricacy (yeah i said simple) first.

what u want to realize is that spending a whole day on a tune is really not that bad !!

[dubmatters]

As someone said just have 3 copies of the synth each with different lfo rates if your finding automation a pain.

[v.i.v.e.k]

real easy .....select touch on the automation tab under the output of the channel>>>>> then twiddle the lfo rate ...cutoff...whatever......open automation tab and its there

simples

[dubmatters]

edit:

Like he said ^^


change the channel strip setting from off to latch

when you play the track normally and changes you make to the synth will be recorded as automation

[Ennayess]

Press command+L and it will bring up the MIDI learn box then click on whatever you would like to automate then twist the knob/fader/whatever you would like to be to automate that command, make sure you move it fully up/down or left/right whichever it may be.

I know that the whole MIDI learn thing is supposed to be extremely simple in Logic, but no matter what I do I absolutely cannot get it to work with my axiom 25. I don't know if it's because I had no idea what I was doing in my first 2-3 years with logic and I permanently messed something up or what. But trying to use command+L usually presents more problems than solutions for me. I've done plenty of reading and asking around on the subject too. But thanks for the advice anyways. I guess I could do it with my mouse if I wanted to.

Me too. Logic doesn't seem to learn anything on my axiom. The keys play fine but learning is a pain in the ass.

[Ldizzy]

the automation lane is easy to manipulate once u get the basics of it...

i got pretty efficient at it... dont be scared of it

but yeah, to come up with better ideas i guess u can midi learn something with ur keyboard and record without a loop then take the best bits...

remember the strengh of logic is that it is highly comstumizable shortcutwise... if u think something is not efficent enough... try to make it simpler with shortcuts

[Ldizzy]

automating the alpacas in logic... chewie has made a crazy useful tutorial, to which ive tried to add my personal touch... read the WHOLE thing before you start twiddling because the basic stuff is at the end and the advanced stuff is at the beginning

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=98178

if u read it im pretty sure it will answer ur queston

[mta7388]

************EDIT: haha i posted this and then clicked on the link above ^ and realized that guide is where i learned this. anyway that has pictures and whatnot so its cooler.***********

You can also quantize your automation after you record so if you're knob twiddling is off and you wanna perfect those wobblezz.

Bring up your automation lane. Choose the automation select tool and draw around your automation that you want to edit. Hit ctrl + command + E and that will bring the event window with all your selected automation points highlighted. And the quantize pull down will be towards the top.

I use both this method and the one mentioned about having multiple instances of your synth