how to you make a 2-step drum pattern

[desbest]

Some people don't know what hip hop is, so this is one of those flashback public service announcements
Hip hop beats are done at a slow tempo below 100bpm typically, and the highest I've seen it go is 110bpm.
You can call grime, the version of rap music for teenagers with low attention spans, who like hyper beats, who don't want to listen to meaningful lyrics, or a load of lyrics like with Common or Nas.
Grime has more emphasis on having a cool beat, and some cool bars, they don't have to mean anything if you know what I mean. Lil Wayne's A Milli could have been a grime song as it has that kind of lyrics.
Hip hop beats do have a slow tempo, even if it's that new dirty south subgenre of hip hop.
Whether it's east coast, west coast, gangsta rap, or dirty south, it's got a low bpm.

Which idiot prompted this discussion by saying that hip hop has a high bpm? A 2step drum pattern has come to this.

Try this! Download some grime and hip hop acapellas, and place a kick on the first beat of every bar. Then change the tempo until the kicks fit in with the lyrics.
Once you've done that, come back and tell me that hip hop rap lyrics are designed for a higher tempo.

I'm including this because some people on this forum do not understand music genres

2-step?!?!
can we PLEASE stop with all of the sub-genres of dubstep now...GODDD!

Dont forget a lot of hip hop is made between 150 and 170 bpm.

East Coast: Eyedea & Abilities (the whole album is there), Medina Green - Crosstown Beef,
breakbeat drums, turntabalism, flutes, tambourines, trumpets, guitar licks, chill rhymin, the lyrics are typically said with no pauses like in west coast
West Coast: Heavy D - Black Coffee Will Smith - Greatest Hits
i dunno how to describe it
Gangsta Rap: 50 Cent, The Game, G Unit
self explanatory
Dirty South: Really good dj mix 3:42 Monica featuring Dem Franchize Boyz - Everytime Tha Beat Drop
music influenced by crunk music by Lil Jon, R&B by T-Pain, (Iyaz - Replay) and hip hop by Lil Wayne (Young Money, Drake)

Now let's go back to the 2step. Argument over.

[symmetricalsounds]

Some people don't know what hip hop is.........Will Smith - Greatest Hits

[pete_bubonic]

some inane and actually incorrect bullshit

That was one of the most conceited and dumbest posts I have read from someone trying to look like they know about a topic. Well done. I actually can't even be arsed to take it apart as anyone actually in to hiphop and/or grime will know.

[Mortal]

2-step?!?!

can we PLEASE stop with all of the sub-genres of dubstep now...GODDD!

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2-step was around before dubstep was one of the genre's involved in making the scene...

Mortals not exactly musically stupid, I promise, we chat ... I hav e afunny suspiscion his joke just flew right over your head man.

i was hoping a few people would miss my humour...makes it all the more entertaining!

[serox]

Some people don't know what hip hop is, so this is one of those flashback public service announcements
Hip hop beats are done at a slow tempo below 100bpm typically, and the highest I've seen it go is 110bpm.
You can call grime, the version of rap music for teenagers with low attention spans, who like hyper beats, who don't want to listen to meaningful lyrics, or a load of lyrics like with Common or Nas.
Grime has more emphasis on having a cool beat, and some cool bars, they don't have to mean anything if you know what I mean. Lil Wayne's A Milli could have been a grime song as it has that kind of lyrics.
Hip hop beats do have a slow tempo, even if it's that new dirty south subgenre of hip hop.
Whether it's east coast, west coast, gangsta rap, or dirty south, it's got a low bpm.

Which idiot prompted this discussion by saying that hip hop has a high bpm? A 2step drum pattern has come to this.

Well I think you may need to tell people in the UK who call their music Hip Hop, they dont know what they are talking about yeh?:)

Loads of people are making music and releasing it calling it Hip Hop at DnB tempo. Altho the bpm is high they are leaving bigger gaps between the snare and kick so it feels slow. You need to check the snare/hi hat rolls to see its actually faster than you think at first.

I am not saying all Hip Hop is like this, but I know there is a lot of it being made like this in the UK/US.

Check Benny Banks, Giggs, Colours and K koke for examples. They call it underground UK Hip Hop and the tempos go from 140 to 170.

Even the stuff you hear in the charts now days that they call Hip Hop is much faster than the tempos you seem to think. Times have moved on from how Hip Hop was made I guess. I am not claiming to know it about Hip hop at all btw.

[serox]

Try this! Download some grime and hip hop acapellas, and place a kick on the first beat of every bar. Then change the tempo until the kicks fit in with the lyrics.
Once you've done that, come back and tell me that hip hop rap lyrics are designed for a higher tempo.

/facepalm

[wub]

West Coast: Will Smith - Greatest Hits

Ah yes, Will Smith Greatest Hits. That much overlooked classic example of West Coast hip hop at it's very peak.

[Ldizzy]

... hip hop has always come in various various various various genres... various tempos... various forms... whether the talk is based on the time continuum, the geographical situation or the origins of the person doing it (yeah i said it )

at first it was really more geographical but now its really a question of taste and market (yes i know it sounds lame)... i still find a lot of hip hop beats have a certain bounce that is similar tho... its always a ''hard'' beat, if some people get me... a hard back-and-forth-rockin-type bounce... whether its a chilled one... or a really hard one... (and yet we could find hundreds of exceptions)

whether we're talking Ummah productions or T.I's last release... or Chicago Juke mixes... or Stone throw compilation.. or Ultramagnetics old stuff... or Mc ShyD... or Wiley (and yes to me grime is hip hop as crunk is hip hop as detroit style is hip hop)... or even the hip-house old releases that dont even fit the description i just gave above... they're all hip hop to me... but they dont sound alike...

fuck theyve been repeating this shit all over the place.. hip hop is not only a style of music... its a worldwide, highly adaptable, urban sub-subculture... and if u really want a smart analysis about it... please dont do it tempo based... but yeah, most of them, traditionally, are around 119bpm (thx to james brown), then 90 (thx to third bass and atcq), then 140bpm(thx to whatever gold mouthed southern bastard)... then up to a million bpm i dont care... we're all drifting here..

So back to the main subject..

theres a lot of really valuable info up there if u ask a noob me

i read all those comments and the best has by far been ''listen to some ukg''..

Quick consideration about quantizing...
In hip hop circles, its always been a feud... whenever i said ''dont quantize your drums''... people got mad and felt like i was thinking on-time beats are shite... no

but i do think its a valuable exercice to turn the grid off.. and move ur parts around... even if its to end up with fucked up or really basic results... itll teach u a lot..

the more i listen to el-b and gurley's stuff... the more i realize they're really similar to some of my favourite slum village releases in a sense...

one thing i love about ukg is that there seems to be a hundred ways to reach that rolling feel

[Jean-Luc Cougar]

The amount of idiocy and incorrect information in this thread is incredible.

You know who you are, you need to do your homework:

[glottis5]

Some people don't know what hip hop is, so this is one of those flashback public service announcements
Hip hop beats are done at a slow tempo below 100bpm typically, and the highest I've seen it go is 110bpm.
You can call grime, the version of rap music for teenagers with low attention spans, who like hyper beats, who don't want to listen to meaningful lyrics, or a load of lyrics like with Common or Nas.
Grime has more emphasis on having a cool beat, and some cool bars, they don't have to mean anything if you know what I mean. Lil Wayne's A Milli could have been a grime song as it has that kind of lyrics.
Hip hop beats do have a slow tempo, even if it's that new dirty south subgenre of hip hop.
Whether it's east coast, west coast, gangsta rap, or dirty south, it's got a low bpm.

Which idiot prompted this discussion by saying that hip hop has a high bpm? A 2step drum pattern has come to this.

Try this! Download some grime and hip hop acapellas, and place a kick on the first beat of every bar. Then change the tempo until the kicks fit in with the lyrics.
Once you've done that, come back and tell me that hip hop rap lyrics are designed for a higher tempo.

I'm including this because some people on this forum do not understand music genres

2-step?!?!
can we PLEASE stop with all of the sub-genres of dubstep now...GODDD!

Dont forget a lot of hip hop is made between 150 and 170 bpm.

East Coast: Eyedea & Abilities (the whole album is there), Medina Green - Crosstown Beef,
breakbeat drums, turntabalism, flutes, tambourines, trumpets, guitar licks, chill rhymin, the lyrics are typically said with no pauses like in west coast
West Coast: Heavy D - Black Coffee Will Smith - Greatest Hits
i dunno how to describe it
Gangsta Rap: 50 Cent, The Game, G Unit
self explanatory
Dirty South: Really good dj mix 3:42 Monica featuring Dem Franchize Boyz - Everytime Tha Beat Drop
music influenced by crunk music by Lil Jon, R&B by T-Pain, (Iyaz - Replay) and hip hop by Lil Wayne (Young Money, Drake)

Now let's go back to the 2step. Argument over.

Pretty good troll

[Swanwickk]

this thread fails

[Ldizzy]

might sound lame and dejavu.. but these days ive been making drums at 115-120 bpm, then speed them up... thats what i used to do with my sampler back then whenever i needed to apply precise tweaks.. might not always work.. but it can get u where u want easier sometimes..

reason why the info on this thread is so diffuse is prolly because garage drums are more a matter of feel then theory.. kinda like the jay dee drums..