the government have nothing to do with it and there is a form of free healthcare for people who need it in America i believe... correct me though if im wrong, i could be!rbnc wrote:In America the government will let you die on the street of a curable disease if you don't have healthcare, the UK isn't that bad yet.herbalicious wrote:We're equally as fucked over here.capo ultra wrote:so glad I don't live in the US
America can be so embarrassing. :|
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noam wrote:the government have nothing to do with it and there is a form of free healthcare for people who need it in America i believe... correct me though if im wrong, i could be!rbnc wrote:In America the government will let you die on the street of a curable disease if you don't have healthcare, the UK isn't that bad yet.herbalicious wrote:We're equally as fucked over here.capo ultra wrote:so glad I don't live in the US
You are wrong, thousands of people die every week from curable diseases or because their health insurance providers decide not to cover them. The only thing available is medicare for a very small proportion of society, basically, old people. Right-wingers and Libertarians would love to repeal even that section of society which get government run coverage.
Heathcare costs are out of control, my uncle, who lives in the States, pays $7000 a year, even until a few months ago, if you had coverage you could still be denied your costs if you had a pre-existing condition, meaning basically if you were already ill before we started insuring you, you have to pay your costs. The costs for a broken leg if not covered would be around $10,000 to $20,000, nice and cheap, so imagine what the costs would be for an ongoing pre-existing condition, bills often run into $100,000+, if you can't pay, you die or go bankrupt and have your house taken off of you.
AAHHH America, freedom.
I'm not anti-America at all, I just think it's weird how they're the only developed country which will let its citizens die on the street because they're poor.
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$10-$20k for a broken leg?
Fuck that. I'd fix that shit myself.
Fuck that. I'd fix that shit myself.
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In America the government will let you die on the street of a curable disease if you don't have healthcare, the UK isn't that bad yet.[/quote]
thats exactly why government has no place in healthcare
thats exactly why government has no place in healthcare
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thats exactly why government has no place in healthcare[/quote]manillathrilla wrote:In America the government will let you die on the street of a curable disease if you don't have healthcare, the UK isn't that bad yet.
considering it's the private sector that runs health care and insurance at the moment i'd say it has every damn right to intervene
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I've read of people being charged a total of $30,000.wubstep wrote:$10-$20k for a broken leg?
Fuck that. I'd fix that shit myself.
They even charge you for the food. Ridiculous.
edit:
$106,911.93 for a swallowed denture.
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/10/19/10 ... l-bil.html
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you should see what an ambulance ride costs, better off catching a cab or driving yourselfrbnc wrote:I've read of people being charged a total of $30,000.wubstep wrote:$10-$20k for a broken leg?
Fuck that. I'd fix that shit myself.
They even charge you for the food. Ridiculous.
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What does $30,000 cover though, how do they possibly come up with a figure like that?
Gold-plated plaster-cast?

Gold-plated plaster-cast?

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It makes me really upset, healthcare is a right, at least it is in every single other developed country. America has contributed so much to the world, has so much money, yet can't/won't look after its people.deadly habit wrote:you should see what an ambulance ride costs, better off catching a cab or driving yourselfrbnc wrote:I've read of people being charged a total of $30,000.wubstep wrote:$10-$20k for a broken leg?
Fuck that. I'd fix that shit myself.
They even charge you for the food. Ridiculous.
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wubstep wrote:What does $30,000 cover though, how do they possibly come up with a figure like that?
Gold-plated plaster-cast?
Here's an example.
http://hubpages.com/hub/My-20-000-Plus- ... -An-Update
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take normal supplies that cost in the cents like bandaids or say antibacterial ointment in a regular store then mark it up about 100x + labor for putting it on you + god knows what other fees (believe me if i wasn't a vet and covered, just some dumb shit like me getting hit by a car while riding my bike would have raped my wallet)wubstep wrote:What does $30,000 cover though, how do they possibly come up with a figure like that?
Gold-plated plaster-cast?
i can completely understand people avoiding getting treatment with how ridiculous the system is in it's current state
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I feel like non-Americans are more concerned about the state of your healthcare system than you guys are.deadly habit wrote:take normal supplies that cost in the cents like bandaids or say antibacterial ointment in a regular store then mark it up about 100x + labor for putting it on you + god knows what other fees (believe me if i wasn't a vet and covered, just some dumb shit like me getting hit by a car while riding my bike would have raped my wallet)wubstep wrote:What does $30,000 cover though, how do they possibly come up with a figure like that?
Gold-plated plaster-cast?
i can completely understand people avoiding getting treatment with how ridiculous the system is in it's current state
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Sadly it definitely feels like that sometimes.rbnc wrote:I feel like non-Americans are more concerned about the state of your healthcare system than you guys are.deadly habit wrote:take normal supplies that cost in the cents like bandaids or say antibacterial ointment in a regular store then mark it up about 100x + labor for putting it on you + god knows what other fees (believe me if i wasn't a vet and covered, just some dumb shit like me getting hit by a car while riding my bike would have raped my wallet)wubstep wrote:What does $30,000 cover though, how do they possibly come up with a figure like that?
Gold-plated plaster-cast?
i can completely understand people avoiding getting treatment with how ridiculous the system is in it's current state
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the problem is, like with all american politics, instead of a bill just covering healthcare they tacked on a bunch of other shit trying to sneak those agendas in under the guise of health carerbnc wrote:I feel like non-Americans are more concerned about the state of your healthcare system than you guys are.deadly habit wrote:take normal supplies that cost in the cents like bandaids or say antibacterial ointment in a regular store then mark it up about 100x + labor for putting it on you + god knows what other fees (believe me if i wasn't a vet and covered, just some dumb shit like me getting hit by a car while riding my bike would have raped my wallet)wubstep wrote:What does $30,000 cover though, how do they possibly come up with a figure like that?
Gold-plated plaster-cast?
i can completely understand people avoiding getting treatment with how ridiculous the system is in it's current state
that's when you get back into the retarded extremist political side debate territory with plays out so well in the media and makes for the majority of people being ignorant to the real issues at hand
if people weren't so damn gullible to lap up what the news says and actually did some basic research to try to get a non-biased opinion, pressured their elected representatives, we probably would have some form of socialized medicine by now
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It's a shame socialism is considered such a dirty word in the States, you can't get elected in a European country unless you vow to protect the socialist infrastructure of the country.deadly habit wrote:we probably would have some form of socialized medicine by now
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the media and politicians have done quite a good job at making the general populace believe that socialism = communism/fascismrbnc wrote:It's a shame socialism is considered such a dirty word in the States, you can't get elected in a European country unless you vow to protect the socialist infrastructure of the country.deadly habit wrote:we probably would have some form of socialized medicine by now
if only the average person realized how much of a caste system we live in already
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o ya is this embarassing?
... didnt think so
... didnt think so
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deadly habit wrote:the media and politicians have done quite a good job at making the general populace believe that socialism = communism/fascism
if only the average person realized how much of a caste system we live in already
FOR THE WINcapo ultra wrote:yeehhhaaaaaarr!![]()
Good stuff, off to make some tea and read the financials in my country home xx
you are seriously dumb in the head if you think the healthcare bill is a problem
just go ahead and quote one passage from the bill thats fucking over anyone but the rich.
OH NO YOU CANT DO IT COZ YOU DONT KNOW SHIT YOU JUST LIKE TO BE CONTRARY
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you are seriously dumb in the head if you think the healthcare bill is a problem
just go ahead and quote one passage from the bill thats fucking over anyone but the rich.
OH NO YOU CANT DO IT COZ YOU DONT KNOW SHIT YOU JUST LIKE TO BE CONTRARY[/quote]
your a fucking moron, where are we getting this money?
do you have the healthcare bill memorized?
in this country its not governments job, and never should be. end of story.
fucking idiot
just go ahead and quote one passage from the bill thats fucking over anyone but the rich.
OH NO YOU CANT DO IT COZ YOU DONT KNOW SHIT YOU JUST LIKE TO BE CONTRARY[/quote]
your a fucking moron, where are we getting this money?
do you have the healthcare bill memorized?
in this country its not governments job, and never should be. end of story.
fucking idiot
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