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Post by masstronaut » Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:02 pm

autonomic wrote:Seconded, thirded, fourthed and fifthed. This is too long for words.
What about 'floccipaucinihilipilification'?

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Post by *decibella~~ » Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:02 pm

Batfink wrote:
*DeCiBella~~ wrote:im not guessing the intent ..... the intent is apparent! Thats my point.
Why dont you read my post properly before trying to pick faults with it.
look deci, i'm not trying to have a go at you, and i am reading your posts properly. :)

but you are assuming that deapoh's intent was to bring bad feeling. you don;t know that, you think that. its your opinion. everything you wrote is opinion bar the people getting fucked over thing, which is a fact that most people in this or any dance music scene are aware of.

even if deaps had posted it onn barefiles first, this is a divisive issue and would have most likely (here's my opinion...) blown up just the same once it had hit the front page of dubstepforum. he just put the facts up for people to decide about themselves. Alot of people, myself included, have been eagerly awaiting the new Barefiles. And in all honesty i still am. :)
its all good Batfink mate :D

im not assuming that he wanted to bring bad feeling, infact im sure he didnt want that at all. BUT... he would of known the implications of his thread (come on mate, 2 very well known organizations in dubstep fallin out), and what a massive reaction it would of had, like i said in my 1st post an announcement on Barefiles would of been much more proffesional and less negative and still informed everyone, but he obv wanted the reaction from a forum, and from a forum where he knows many of the users.
Yes it probably would of blown up on here anyway (like i DID say in my 1st post :wink: it would of started a thread all by itself) then it would of been the public wanting to dicuss it and doing so of thier own accord to show support. Instead it was posted up by someone involved as one side of a dispute......cousre it was gonna cause a free for all.
thats my point, i didnt like they way it was done, and my post isnt jus all my opinions its stuff that actually rings true if you think about it.

now bat mate, i dont want me and you to have to fall out :lol:
all good in this hood thinkin mate, im all about good vibes.
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Post by batfink » Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:04 pm

*DeCiBella~~ wrote:now bat mate, i dont want me and you to have to fall out :lol:
lets set up a boxing ring outside the next dmz. Get some of those inflatable sumosuits on the go.

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Post by darkside » Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:05 pm

This is still going on!...



yawn! :H: :u:
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Post by percy gonzalez » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:22 pm

here is a conversation i had with deapoh some months ago:

Percy says:
ere deaps whassis barefiles tings
Deapoh says:
yea rinse are tryin it
Deapoh says:
and also, have this roast, of many plenty
Percy says:
yea i know i heard this dahn the ways
Deapoh says:
im deaps innit
Deapoh says:
all in the good fun of the times
Percy says:
u know this, but also, have u seen it, have u found me
Deapoh says:
SLANDEROUS! PROPEL ME

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Post by percy gonzalez » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:39 pm

THIS CONVERSATION

DIDNT HAPPEN

BRIDGE MY GAPS SEEN

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Post by alias » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:08 pm

Who is Sarah - And why if anyone does it have to be her and Geeneus that buy barefiles if the sale did go ahead - surely it should go through the station managers - or are they?


AND even if barefiles stopped the recording of it - rinse cant do ANYTHING and people would record it anyway and host it. Rinse cant do shit. For more than one reason.

1. Rinse are pirate - end of.
2. I doubt rinse management write down all the tunes played and pay royalties - so the artists could take rinse to court for breaking the law.
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Post by RubiconMan » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:28 pm

autonomic wrote:Most of us aren't familiar enough with the situation to have anything worthwhile to say anyway. I learned that several pages ago.
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Post by dj slums » Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:44 am

*DeCiBella~~ wrote: and my post isnt jus all my opinions its stuff that actually rings true if you think about it.[/b]
EH?!?!?

no, it is just your opinion. sorry.

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Post by lloydnoise » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:01 am

has anyone actually asked the Rinse management how they plan to enforce legal restrictions within an illegal business? surely they have no answer to this.
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Post by hera » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:19 am

pompende wrote:WOW.

just a heads up to rinse famo: i dont have scratch to pay for radio sets...please think twice about charging for them.
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Post by relaks » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:43 am

NIce to hear another side of the story...

But I gotta say, I'm not convinced. I've made my own judgement.
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Post by the947sw11 » Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:42 pm

doomstep wrote:
rachel wrote:
autonomic wrote: Also, a lot of people donated financially to Barefiles which, sometime thereafter, became a limited corporation with a profit-driven business model.
seconded. maybe part of the nu marketing budget could be used to reimburse?
as someone that donated - im proper pissed



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So did I, but considering that I downloaded far more mixes than I recorded and contributed myself, I still think of it as really good value. But I do see your point re: "limited companies"...

To be honest, I'm much more pissed off with the fact that Rinse appear to be targeting those who contribute the most, but at the same time I bet they have done nothing about all those sellers of so-called "grime mixtapes" on Ebay which are quite obviously recordings from Rinse radio sessions in the vast majority of cases :evil:
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Post by rudeski damager » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:31 pm

LOL...

ALLOW PAYING FOR ANY BAIT PIRATE RADIO RIPS FROM EITHER RINSE OR BAREFILES..



COME ORRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNN...



EVEN KISS.FM DON'T CHARGE.
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Post by rudeski damager » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:31 pm

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Post by spender » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:58 pm

yeah but no but yeah but no but yeah but...

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Post by alex bk-bk » Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:27 pm

i dont even post on here anymore really but i had to say this:

the moment ppl start charging for sets is the moment this thing goes to shit

think about it

why would ppl suddenly start wanting to pay for something theyre used to getting for free.

recording / hosting sets is really not that hard. look how many ppl have already said back to YSI / we'll just host ourselves / watch for the re-posts / we ain't gonna pay

and learn from that innit

one great aspect of dubstep is doing things for yourself. A hub for mixes is a good thing but its not essential what with this forum and an audio section and many people having access to their own webspace.


ALSO

why should DJs get paid for mixing music other ppl have made? If a dj / station / site gets revenue from a mix, where does that leave the producers that made the tunes in the first place? There's no fair way to distribute that revenue so I say keep money out of it



Rinse - you're on a mad one noone is gonna pay for your mixes. Barefiles - what about registering as a charity or keep taking donations? As long as there's a cause to support ppl will pay. Soon as it's a money maker that's any sense of solidarity or community out the window.

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