Prob with DB levels, Any Solutions?

[AfterEmpire]

Well Im using albino 3 so i figured it should be pretty high quality.

Just outta curiosity, what do u guys think about Bouncing down to a Wav file and then using Normalization?

Heard it was sorta an outdated method but doesnt that make all peaks the same Volume?

Maybe this has destructive effects on the sample?

[GRAYSKALE]

Well Im using albino 3 so i figured it should be pretty high quality.

Just outta curiosity, what do u guys think about Bouncing down to a Wav file and then using Normalization?

Heard it was sorta an outdated method but doesnt that make all peaks the same Volume?

Maybe this has destructive effects on the sample?

yeah normalizing will have destructive effects - but to be honest they will probably be unnoticeable. The more destructive thing would be re-pitching the sample to create melodies - since you're sub probably isn't going to be reaching any further than an octave might be worth just bouncing down like a bar of all 12 notes individually - or at the least the notes you're going to use.

[zuta]

Normalization is an outdated method and doesnt make all peaks the same Volume

[GRAYSKALE]

Normalization is an outdated method and doesnt make all peaks the same Volume

Just though - instead of Normalising - every time you bounce down an individual note you could just adjust the volume fader so that it's hitting 0db and then you'll have a group of samples that all peak at the same place and don't have to use normalising - which might not even be worth while.

[zuta]

Normalization is an outdated method and doesnt make all peaks the same Volume

Just though - instead of Normalising - every time you bounce down an individual note you could just adjust the volume fader so that it's hitting 0db and then you'll have a group of samples that all peak at the same place and don't have to use normalising - which might not even be worth while.

+1

[Grumblex]

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[freakah]

Just thinking - the Low pass filter might be screwing around with your levels. Turn it off, and try that

If it's set low some of the notes you play will be affected by it because they're near or at the same frequency. If you want wobblez on your sub, use LFO -> main amplitude on albino

[staticcast]

I said Sub Bass because I was referring to the Bass that I have which is occupying the Sub frequency range.
I was not aware that the term "Sub" applied to only a Sine wave and nothing more. This is actually the first time i have ever heard this concept suggested.

Moreover, The Bass i am using is a Pure "Sine"

I Havent put any EQs or Filters on the synth with the exception of the LP filter than my synth has built in.
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This is probably your problem. What frequency is your LPF cutoff?

Don't filter a sine sub unless you know exactly what you're doing. The "default" for a synth should be equal RMS amplitude across the keyboard, unless you instruct it otherwise. By lowpass filtering a sine, you're inadvertendly instructing it otherwise. More specifically, you're telling it "make high frequencies quieter", which I'm guessing is what's going on here.

[macc]

Did you say it sounds the same but the meters go up and down?

Or did I miss something?

[AfterEmpire]

Thinkin about it i guess it pretty much sounds the same, but the meters go up a few DBs. Like 3 or 4.

[vviiper]

Albino, for a soundwave? Mhmm, that's a bit of a waste. If you're only going to create a sinewave, then use the most basic VST you've got, to save complication.

Just out of interest, what sequencer are you using?

[freakah]

Albino, for a soundwave? Mhmm, that's a bit of a waste. If you're only going to create a sinewave, then use the most basic VST you've got, to save complication.

I disagree, Albino has always been really low on CPU for me.

The problem is your low pass filter, turn it off!!

[vviiper]

Albino, for a soundwave? Mhmm, that's a bit of a waste. If you're only going to create a sinewave, then use the most basic VST you've got, to save complication.

I disagree, Albino has always been really low on CPU for me.

The problem is your low pass filter, turn it off!!

Just a suggestion! And yes, he has a low pass filter? That will be the cause of dB change.

[Dub_Fiend]

I swear tho, theres gotta be a VST that would just Hold the DB level at a given range.

Uhh... it's called a limiter nubcake lol

Srsly tho sub RMS volume will change depending on the note, for instance if you've got two square oscillators an octave apart run through a LPF you will find that playing higher notes will give you a higher RMS volume because lower notes won't show all the frequency content the sound actually possesses... just compress and limit the bass slightly (more if it's a sub because it's less notceable, less if it's a brostep-esque bassline) and accept the fact that nothing will stay constant when you introduce change


Dub Fiend

[logic pro]

What synth you using? Might be worth investing in a few high quality sine wave samples and then just bunging them in a sampler - pretty sure that would solve the problem of dB fluctuation. I know a lot of people use this technique - off the top of my head Subscape and High Rankin' (I know they aren't the best examples), but, regardless, it is a good technique.

thread is bare lolz, but this one is the best.

could you buy me some saw waves too?
and add some triangles, they are darn cheap!

just jokin, some good suggestions in this thread, but a load of misunderstandings, too.

[victor w]

A lot of synths do this all the time. And think about it...when you're listening to a song, do the sub levels always stay at the same volume?...no! It adds movement and naturality to the track. IMO having a constant level to a sub is rather boring and lets it become unnoticed. If it's going down too low, ie out of mix, then just automate its vol. and hopefully you can copy and paste that wherever you need it in your track. I've had to do this before, and it's not hard at all.