izotope ozone question

[balthazarely]

ive heard that you can use ozone to analyze other songs, maybe one that you like the mix on, and it can apply a simular mix to yours? anyone know how to do this?

[idlemode]

i believe this tutorial may show yu how. either way its useful. - http://ableton-live-tutorial.com/50/how ... -must-see/

You are shown how to grab the EQ settings from any professionally produced track you like and apply them to your own track! It’s amazing.

[DJ Crackle]

i believe this tutorial may show yu how. either way its useful. - http://ableton-live-tutorial.com/50/how ... -must-see/

You are shown how to grab the EQ settings from any professionally produced track you like and apply them to your own track! It’s amazing.

that's pretty fucking sick, had no idea it could do that.

[Sirius]

yeah its a mean buzz ay.
I've used the matching eq thing a couple of times....
helps ya out when learning to eq.

take notice to what is does to your track & start doing this yourself when creating ya track!!

!!chea

[DJ Crackle]

Tried it on a few of my tracks last night, and heard a huge improvement. It looked like with the different tracks, and different reference tracks, the eq curve ozone was applying to my tracks looked relatively the same.
glad i know where i need to be paying more attention in my mix.

[gonzodj]

good god i never knew ozone could do that you are a good man my friend

[sixth sense]

I wouldn't feel comfortable EQ'ing my Master Bus like that, wouldn't your mix sound right if you EQ'd each individual element properly? Correct me if I'm wrong because this is the one area where I lack the most knowledge.

[AfterEmpire]

This should be applied to your track after you have done all your mixing and have bounced the mix down with proper headroom to a wav file as high of a bitrate as you can.

What you wanna do is put up a target track (the commercial track that you like the Eq-ing on)

You also load up the stereo mix Wav file of your source track .

On the master bus, your gonna wanna load up Izotope Ozone and turn off everything but the paragraphic EQ

Click the options button and change the average time button to 10 seconds.

Click on the button that says Analog twice, until it says Matching

Click Snapshots, and if any of the boxes are {x}-ed make sure u uncheck them.

Mute your Source track and play at least ten seconds of the target track, after which time you click on snapshots and choose a color and click the Target button under that color.

Now you mute the Target track and play at least ten seconds of the Source track, after which time you click on the snapshots button and choose a DIFFERENT color and click the Source button under that color.

Now the last thing you wanna do is make sure that under the snapshots window, the Matching amount and the smoothing sliders are both set to the suggested amount of about 50%.

I suppose you could change the sliders more or less depending on how it sounds with your particular source and target tracks but these are just the factory recommendations so... There are no rules of music (sort of) so just do what sounds good!

Hope this helps Someone out!

[Ldizzy]

I wouldn't feel comfortable EQ'ing my Master Bus like that, wouldn't your mix sound right if you EQ'd each individual element properly? Correct me if I'm wrong because this is the one area where I lack the most knowledge.

ur not wrong. but youre talking about two different things.

they say eqing is the most important task of any person taking sound design seriously. if u read about it ur gonna understand that both are actually important...

u need to understand that.. just for one sound theres more of one use to an eq...

it could correct and clean to give headroom, it could correct to remove artifacts, it could emphasis a certain quality of the sound, it could shape a group of sounds.. it could remove certain problematic frequencies... and it could shape a tune itself..

but heres a little stereotyped step by step :

first thing u should usually do is sculpt each sound that needs it... on its own channel... with eqs and other tools ( i kinda recommend doing that gradually, as u build ur track)

ur gonna eq most sounds individually, then maybe eq a bus of various sounds together (eg : eq the kick, the snare, the hat, the percussions, then send them to the same bus and eq them together to shape it a bit more)...

then put other effects.. do all the mixing

and when ur ALMOST DONE... ur gonna want to stick an eq (if necessary) on ur master track... so u give it a final little sculpting...

personally... i think that if uve managed ur way meticulously with each sound, and uve taken the time to take care of the actual dB level of each sound... that final step is more icing on the cake that a crucial stage... and that is where i see a lot of sense in ur statement

thus... i see that technique as something more relevant to mastering then to mixing

but im learning too...

u mark a point tho... that technique WONT replace eqing knowledge... and can be harmful if ur target track doesnt fit the track u want to format... it has to be a similar track i guess.. in terms of textures, dynamics and arrangements,

think about this : djs have eqs on their mixers to apply some eqing to whole tracks... and... well... ur mom's car has an eq on it to apply eqing not only to a whole track, but to any music running thru it..

hope it clarifies

[Ldizzy]

@sixth sense

wow dude... we have the same post score...

oops...

did i.. just beat u by one


BLAAAAAAM

[sixth sense]

Thanks for the post Ldizzy! finally starting to get the hang of how EQ actually works.

[Ldizzy]

find that http://bobbyowsinski.com/The_Mixing_Eng ... dbook.html

read it.

[deadly_habit]

ewww automixing
tried one of those yoinks ago and sounded like utter shit

[Ldizzy]

ewww automixing
tried one of those yoinks ago and sounded like utter shit

haha they usually do. thats like buying orgasms for your girl at a convenience store...

yet.. if ur creative and have a good jugement, it can become a tool instead of a crutch

[jyro]

Just wanted to add my own question to this thread rather than start a new one.

Based on recommendations I recently bought Ozone and PSP vintage warmer. I'm using these to "master" (I know its not really mastering) my songs. So after I bounce my final mix, I bring the wav into a new session. Using both Ozone and PSP I can get a sound that I really like, but I cannot get my volume to a decent level as the track clips when I try to push it. Even with I get it peaking at 0db, when I compare it to other tracks its just totally lacking balls. I'm really happy with how the mix itself sounds so its volume that is the issue. Any suggestions/advice please?

Cheers

[Sirius]

answer to your question is.... compression!!!
but fuck compression & its lose of dynamics!
turn ya track up & tell me how it compares.

Ya can't do the same job as a mastering engineer with the thousands of hours experience & thousands of dollars worth of equipment like!

loudness vs dynamics.... what would you prefer?? it a fukn war!!!

!!chea

[jyro]

So your saying to lose the compression?
Again, I seem to be able to get a good mix down that has dymanics, the the volume does not go loud enough.

[legend4ry]

So your saying to lose the compression?
Again, I seem to be able to get a good mix down that has dymanics, the the volume does not go loud enough.

Thats why we have this amazing invention called a volume knob, my friend!

LOUD doesn't always equal good! Dynamics is what makes a track interesting to listen to at high volume - highly compressed tracks lose their clarity and "umph" past a certain volume, if they have any at all, if you want something loud - get it mastered. They will keep enough dynamics without making it sound like turd.. Otherwise, draw for the volume knob.

[jyro]

Thanks for the advice. I'll keep the focus on dynamics rather than volume. Just cant help but want to get more volume out of the track when I hear other producers on the forum getting such loud mixes.

[legend4ry]

I know what you mean - theres no harm in putting on some soft limiting for soundcloud or w/e so its peaking at 0db! Just don't get frustrated a a low volumed track - after all, people who are about dynamics and good mixdowns would appreciate your track more than some stupidly loud square block of a song.