"Why Intelligent People Use More Drugs"

[alphacat]

I'm not posting this as an endorsement, excuse, rationale, or any other kind of pro or con. Just interesting to read.

Why Intelligent People Use More Drugs
Intelligent people don’t always do the right thing

The human consumption of psychoactive drugs, such as marijuana, cocaine, and heroin, is of even more recent historical origin than the human consumption of alcohol or tobacco, so the Hypothesis would predict that more intelligent people use more drugs more frequently than less intelligent individuals.

The use of opium dates back to about 5,000 years ago, and the earliest reference to the pharmacological use of cannabis is in a book written in 2737 BC by the Chinese Emperor Shen Nung. Opium and cannabis are the only “natural” (agricultural) psychoactive drugs. Other psychoactive drugs are “chemical” (pharmacological); they require modern chemistry to manufacture, and are therefore of much more recent origin. Morphine was isolated from opium in 1806, cocaine was first manufactured in 1860, and heroin was discovered in 1874.

Given their extremely recent origin and thus evolutionary novelty, the Hypothesis would predict that more intelligent individuals are more likely to consume all types of psychoactive drugs than less intelligent individuals. Once again, as with alcohol consumption, the fact that the consumption of psychoactive drugs has largely negative health consequences and few (if any) benefits of any kind is immaterial to the Hypothesis. It does not predict that more intelligent individuals are more likely to engage in healthy and beneficial behavior, only that they are more likely to engage in evolutionarily novel behavior. As I point out in an earlier post, more intelligent people are often more likely to do stupid things.

Consistent with the prediction of the Hypothesis, the analysis of the National Child Development Study shows that more intelligent children in the United Kingdom are more likely to grow up to consume psychoactive drugs than less intelligent children. Net of sex, religion, religiosity, marital status, number of children, education, earnings, depression, satisfaction with life, social class at birth, mother’s education, and father’s education, British children who are more intelligent before the age of 16 are more likely to consume psychoactive drugs at age 42 than less intelligent children.

The following graph shows the association between childhood general intelligence and the latent factor for the consumption of psychoactive drugs, constructed from indicators for the consumption of 13 different types of psychoactive drugs (cannabis, ecstasy, amphetamines, LSD, amyl nitrate, magic mushrooms, cocaine, temazepan, semeron, ketamine, crack, heroin, and methadone). As you can see, there is a clear monotonic association between childhood general intelligence and adult consumption of psychoactive drugs. “Very bright” individuals (with IQs above 125) are roughly three-tenths of a standard deviation more likely to consume psychoactive drugs than “very dull” individuals (with IQs below 75).



The following graph shows a similar association between childhood intelligence and the latent factor for the consumption of psychoactive drugs among Americans. The data come from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health. The childhood intelligence is measured in junior high and high school, and the adult drug consumption is measured seven years later, and constructed from indicators for the consumption of 5 different types of psychoactive drugs (marijuana, cocaine, LSD, crystal meth, and heroin). The association is not monotonic, but nevertheless, “normal” (90 < IQ < 110), “bright” (110 < IQ < 125), and “very bright” individuals consume more psychoactive substances than “very dull” or “dull” (75 < IQ < 90) individuals. Once the social and demographic variables are controlled, however, the positive association between childhood intelligence and adult drug consumption is not statistically significant in the American Add Health sample.



People – scientists and civilians alike – often associate intelligence with positive life outcomes. The fact that more intelligent individuals are more likely to consume alcohol, tobacco, and psychoactive drugs tampers this universally positive view of intelligence and intelligent individuals. Intelligent people don’t always do the right thing, only the evolutionarily novel thing.

[wubstep]

I'm not posting this as an endorsement, excuse, rationale, or any other kind of pro or con. Just interesting to read.

Opium and cannabis are the only “natural” (agricultural) psychoactive drugs.

Mushoomwut?

[2manynoobs]

I think it's true.

80% of the people on here are druggies, but if you see the amount of creation/knowledge/wisdom/art/... coming out of this forum.....

[deadly_habit]

I'm not posting this as an endorsement, excuse, rationale, or any other kind of pro or con. Just interesting to read.

Opium and cannabis are the only “natural” (agricultural) psychoactive drugs.

Mushoomwut?

peyote
ayahuasca
san pedro
datura
salvia

curse us intelligent drug using people having more knowledge than whoever wrote this article

[qwaycee_]

salvia is one drug i can confidently say i tried once, and have little to no intention of trying again (ok maybe just once more).

[knell]

haha i like how i looked at the thread title and immediately knew who posted it

[knell]

salvia is one drug i can confidently say i tried once, and have little to no intention of trying again (ok maybe just once more).

fuck dissociatives (salvia especially), unless you're looking to lose your mind in a really uncomfortable way

[wubstep]

salvia is one drug i can confidently say i tried once, and have little to no intention of trying again (ok maybe just once more).

fuck dissociatives (salvia especially), unless you're looking to lose your mind in a really uncomfortable way

No idea if it's a dissociative, that's a great way of describing 2cb + k.

Saying that, did it the day after too.

Was staring at my 3 bulging fingers trying work out who I was and if I was human.

[laurent__duval]

salvia is one drug i can confidently say i tried once, and have little to no intention of trying again (ok maybe just once more).

i think the only time people take salvia is when their mates have recently tried it/been tricked into it and they wanna get someone else back. either that or they're just going into with their eyes closed!

its hands down the most unpleasant experience of my life, except for maybe being in a car crash.

[knell]

salvia is one drug i can confidently say i tried once, and have little to no intention of trying again (ok maybe just once more).

fuck dissociatives (salvia especially), unless you're looking to lose your mind in a really uncomfortable way

No idea if it's a dissociative, that's a great way of describing 2cb + k.

Saying that, did it the day after too.

Was staring at my 3 bulging fingers trying work out who I was and if I was human.

no, if you're still seeing fingers and can still think intelligibly, then chances are the drug is not a dissociative.

think along the lines of Dimethyltryptamine, that kinda drug where all you can do is lay on your back and forget that you've even taken a drug... an out of body type feeling

[jameshk]

Sounds like a good excuse to me.

[qwaycee_]

salvia is one drug i can confidently say i tried once, and have little to no intention of trying again (ok maybe just once more).

i think the only time people take salvia is when their mates have recently tried it/been tricked into it and they wanna get someone else back. either that or they're just going into with their eyes closed!

its hands down the most unpleasant experience of my life, except for maybe being in a car crash.

hahaha

all i heard was that it was legal, and 6 different people who shared their stories with me had completely different trips.

so i went to the store and bought a bag...guy asked me if i had a clue what i was getting into. sort of thought about it for like 2 seconds then responded "no". he gave me a little run down.

i don't know man...i don't even really wanna try to explain the trip/ how fucking frightening it was. actually didn't even finish the bag...had some another day and it was equally bizarre. having the unseen playing in the background didn't help either tbh.

but jesus christ, 2cb??? i can't keep up.

salvia is one drug i can confidently say i tried once, and have little to no intention of trying again (ok maybe just once more).

fuck dissociatives (salvia especially), unless you're looking to lose your mind in a really uncomfortable way

yeah...is it possible to have a good time on that shit?

[qwaycee_]

*fuckin double post!!!!

[jameshk]

The only dissociative i enjoy is ketamine. Stick with that.

[kidshuffle]

salvia is one drug i can confidently say i tried once, and have little to no intention of trying again (ok maybe just once more).

I love how you either absolutely love or hate salvia. I fucking love it, and would do it as often as I could

[laurent__duval]

salvia is one drug i can confidently say i tried once, and have little to no intention of trying again (ok maybe just once more).

I love how you either absolutely love or hate salvia. I fucking love it, and would do it as often as I could

you're a sick bastard...

[laurent__duval]

salvia is one drug i can confidently say i tried once, and have little to no intention of trying again (ok maybe just once more).

i think the only time people take salvia is when their mates have recently tried it/been tricked into it and they wanna get someone else back. either that or they're just going into with their eyes closed!

its hands down the most unpleasant experience of my life, except for maybe being in a car crash.

hahaha

all i heard was that it was legal, and 6 different people who shared their stories with me had completely different trips.

so i went to the store and bought a bag...guy asked me if i had a clue what i was getting into. sort of thought about it for like 2 seconds then responded "no". he gave me a little run down.

i don't know man...i don't even really wanna try to explain the trip/ how fucking frightening it was. actually didn't even finish the bag...had some another day and it was equally bizarre. having the unseen playing in the background didn't help either tbh.

but jesus christ, 2cb??? i can't keep up.

the UK is crazy about the alphabet drugs.

mdma, mdmc, 2cb, dmt, tfmpp, 2ci, lsd... thc......k....... and some others i cant think of right now.

i had a funny conversation with a guy at secret garden party (festival in the uk) a few years. i explained that a friend had got this stuff called tfmpp and it was quite nice. he said "no, fuck that mate, i'm old fashioned. i dont take any of that weird chemical shit. just pills and acid for me..."

[qwaycee_]

salvia is one drug i can confidently say i tried once, and have little to no intention of trying again (ok maybe just once more).

i think the only time people take salvia is when their mates have recently tried it/been tricked into it and they wanna get someone else back. either that or they're just going into with their eyes closed!

its hands down the most unpleasant experience of my life, except for maybe being in a car crash.

hahaha

all i heard was that it was legal, and 6 different people who shared their stories with me had completely different trips.

so i went to the store and bought a bag...guy asked me if i had a clue what i was getting into. sort of thought about it for like 2 seconds then responded "no". he gave me a little run down.

i don't know man...i don't even really wanna try to explain the trip/ how fucking frightening it was. actually didn't even finish the bag...had some another day and it was equally bizarre. having the unseen playing in the background didn't help either tbh.

but jesus christ, 2cb??? i can't keep up.

the UK is crazy about the alphabet drugs.

mdma, mdmc, 2cb, dmt, tfmpp, 2ci, lsd... thc......k....... and some others i cant think of right now.

i had a funny conversation with a guy at secret garden party (festival in the uk) a few years. i explained that a friend had got this stuff called tfmpp and it was quite nice. he said "no, fuck that mate, i'm old fashioned. i dont take any of that weird chemical shit. just pills and acid for me..."

tfmpp....sounds like i need a copy of 7zip in order to take that shit.

The combination of BZP and TFMPP has been associated with a range of side effects, including insomnia, anxiety, nausea and vomiting, headaches and muscle aches which may resemble migraine, seizures, impotence, and rarely psychosis, as well as a prolonged and unpleasant hangover effect similar to that produced by alcohol. These side effects tend to be significantly worsened when the BZP/TFMPP mix is consumed alongside alcohol, especially the headache, nausea and hangover.

fuck no!

[1017_duck]

salvia is one drug i can confidently say i tried once, and have little to no intention of trying again (ok maybe just once more).

I love how you either absolutely love or hate salvia. I fucking love it, and would do it as often as I could

you're a sick bastard...

this made me laugh

[gwa]

i had a very, very, very messy night on bzp and tfmpp. was about 3 years ago and my gf (of 3 weeks) was having a house party and i was running around the house with a pan drinking water out of it and then spitting it back in the pan. also had a shower whilst i was fully dressed and then just ran outside (this was december as well)

really bizarre, wouldn't recommend.