"Why Intelligent People Use More Drugs"

[.onelove.]

Aren't tfmpp & bzp effectively what 'Ecstasy' in the UK is now? Or rather when you buy pills from a shifty guy in a club. Never taken it myself but whenever I've seen someone take pills that weren't MDMA they were just immensely irritating and had crushing comedowns the next day.

MDMA is back, i splashed 40 on a g on saturday and it was 100% pure. no comedown, told all my mates i was loved them dearly, etc, etc but ypure right. there was a lot of dodgy bzp pills in the last 2 years, i had some and the expierence was so bad that for around 6 months after, whenever i thought about that night i had really intense panic attacks, it was almost like it rewired my brain.

Is that from pills or crystal?

I can never source MDMA, every dealer I've come across are dodgy fucks who just want to shift as much quantity as possible. Every time I've been offered pills they've been at 2 or 3 quid a piece, which means there's clearly zero MDMA in them. I know there's things like Pillreports that show what ones actually have MD, but you can't exactly ask to inspect them first, especially when most buyers just chug them down anyway to get 'mashed' regardless of the content.

[symmetricalsounds]

article also fails to mention the amount of scientists and others that will happily use nootropic (smart) drugs in order to give them increased productivity+concentration levels.

protip - if the mdma/pills you're thinking of buying have an aniseedy tang to them then definitely buy them.

[pikeymobile]

I remember when a 'bad' pill was one that just had a low dose of mdma so you'd have to take a few extra. It's all Holland's fault anyway as they made various ingrediants used to make mdma illegal so the chemists just stopped making it. I think China did something similar? Or some eastern asian country anyway.

[qwaycee_]

Aren't tfmpp & bzp effectively what 'Ecstasy' in the UK is now? Or rather when you buy pills from a shifty guy in a club. Never taken it myself but whenever I've seen someone take pills that weren't MDMA they were just immensely irritating and had crushing comedowns the next day.

MDMA is back, i splashed 40 on a g on saturday and it was 100% pure. no comedown, told all my mates i was loved them dearly, etc, etc but ypure right. there was a lot of dodgy bzp pills in the last 2 years, i had some and the expierence was so bad that for around 6 months after, whenever i thought about that night i had really intense panic attacks, it was almost like it rewired my brain.

made a comeback here on this side of the water as well.

i was drug free all year right up until october/november.

i think once 2011 rolls around i wanna try and cut this shit out of my life...

i don't wanna end up being a parent doing this shit...for serious.

Hardly touched drugs for over a year cos all the pills contained BZP/MCPP/dogshit, then this summer saw the return of decent MDMA and pills that contained MDMA (albeit at £10 a pop) which ineveitably lead to a good few weekends on them. But i'm in the same boat. Kinda getting too old to be doin it too often, but its comforting to know there is good shit out there for that once-in-a-while session

I just wonder how many youngsters are out there that have started clubbing over the last few years taking shit pills and have yet to consume MDMA. Will be a nice surprise for them when they do!

interesting how drugs have a global ripple effect. hadnt found any mdma at all since 2009 sometime. but for the past 2 months? god damn. and it's the same all around.

i'll put it this way. i called my dude up last couple of weekends....then one night i was considering calling him again....i wrestled with the idea for 2 hours. then i finally say 'fuck it' and send him a text. he texts me back saying 'sorry man all out, will be picking up more tomorrow'. you can't imagine how fucking relieved i was...like seriously relieved! happiest moment of the night was knowing i had no access to mdma. happy, and also fuckin sad depending on how you look at it lol.

that's my prefered shit anyway....coke is such fuckin garbage, i dont care what anyone says

but it's weird, i've had run-of-the-mill pills that were far superior to what mans were trying to pass off as mdma. funny...

[symmetricalsounds]

the cheaper precursor to making mdma was made almost impossible to get hold of which is why mdma supplies dropped off. people are going back to using sassafras oil to make it now which is better but more expensive which is why higher prices plus better pills because it's become more cost-effective to do it that way. this is where the aniseedy flavour comes from.

[feral witchchild]

80% of the people on here are druggies

feels good man

[mVI]

For a while now drugs have really interested me and i've spent a lot of time reading about and kind of surrounding myself with drug culture but i've never had access to them (except weed a couple of times with disappointing results).

I look forward to a time when I'll be able to get hold of weed. It's the drug i'd most like to try (successfully). Psychedelics are also on the list, but they seem a lot more like a big deal from an current outsiders standpoint. The kind of thing where you have to really be in the right place and time mentally.

[qwaycee_]

The kind of thing where you have to really be in the right place and time mentally.

psychedelics are like that for sure.

[j_one]

Probably get shot down for this... but weed doesn't do a lot for me.

[qwaycee_]

would you all consider weed to be a gateway drug?

in my case...i don't know...probably...sure why not.

funny how i have since given up on weed and prefer other things now.

[pikeymobile]

The kind of thing where you have to really be in the right place and time mentally.

psychedelics are like that for sure.

Not so much with more modern psychedelics. Some of the harsher things like mushrooms or more long term things like acid need a right time and place, but you can take silly amounts of 2c-b, 2c-i, 4-aco-dmt and such (in my experience) and have incredibly strong trips without any of the intensity or worry you get from things like shrooms. Like, everytime I take a good amount of mushrooms, that first hour is so incredibly intense. Then again, if you take silly amounts of mdma (500mg+) in one go, stuff is incredibly psychedelic and intense, but manageable.

[RandomEyez]

DMT is something i'm keen to try.

Anyone recommend it?

Or got any experiences you'd like to share?

[symmetricalsounds]

DMT is something i'm keen to try.

Anyone recommend it?

yes, do a search, plenty of stuff written about it on here.

i consider watching fear+loathing as a young teen a gateway drug.

[j_one]

Anyone tried AMT? It's been around for yeeears, but hasn't had much attention so still able to buy legally in this country. Effects are suppose to last up to 24 hours though which definitely puts me off.

[symmetricalsounds]

Anyone tried AMT? It's been around for yeeears, but hasn't had much attention so still able to buy legally in this country. Effects are suppose to last up to 24 hours though which definitely puts me off.

i swear i'm like the only person that likes drugs that last that long.the length of an acid trip is something i've never complained about, plenty of times i just want it longer.

[qwaycee_]

clonazepam anyone? that shit is baaaaaaaaaaaad. especially when consuming with alcohol which obviously you are not supposed to do.


baaaad experiences.

[gwa]

Anyone tried AMT? It's been around for yeeears, but hasn't had much attention so still able to buy legally in this country. Effects are suppose to last up to 24 hours though which definitely puts me off.

i swear i'm like the only person that likes drugs that last that long.the length of an acid trip is something i've never complained about, plenty of times i just want it longer.

i was whinging when i had my mdma wore off the other night, would of happily done an alnighter but ran out about 3 a clock. was asleep by 6

[symmetricalsounds]

harsh times bro

[BLAHBLAHJAH]

Hah know what you mean by the durations... First time wi' acid it was that grand I made it last from Friday until Monday

Guess people get intelligent because learning is a good form of stimulation... Limited options where to take it as you age, then along comes some instant hits of mind expansion allowing you to learn in all sorts of crazy ways. Like the first time as a kid you're given a back-pack with load sof gnarly different compartments. Also dumb people make certain drugs look dumb and therefore unappealing. Works slightly more favourous on the vice-versa however

Also anything that builds up an arsenal of recollective/associative memory by definition increases intelligence. 'Flashback' is a travesty of a term used by people that missed the whole idea

[test_recordings]

would you all consider weed to be a gateway drug?

in my case...i don't know...probably...sure why not.

funny how i have since given up on weed and prefer other things now.

It has now been established in the Netherlands that the decriminilisation of cannabis has lead to no gateway effects from its use. Smokers are more likely to stay smokers than go on to other things because of the separation of the licit and illicit distribution systems.

I've also given up and I like to take LSD and mushrooms far more.