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Re: America vs UK

Post by murky21 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:19 pm

-boring wrote:its just posers who suck. once they move on, we will have a great core of people we picked up along the way.

i just played before Gemmy in Buffalo and this was the tracklist (recording up very soon).... so yea, we are keeping it real and dropping knowledge if you really look for us.

Kryptic Minds & Youngsta - Cold Blooded
Pinch - Double Edged RMX
Code071 -London Sumtin (Seven remix)
Monkeysteak - Lighthouse Dub (Pinch remix)
Caper - Friction
TMSV - Signal
Synkro - Resevoir
V.I.V.E.K. - Feel It
Kryptic Minds - Wasteland
Kromestar & Distinction - Zzzapah
RSD - Rise Up
Siminoff - Dread Control
Kutz - Glitchy Finger
Quantum Soul - Herb Time
Skream - Dark Light
Truth - Puppets
DJ Madd- Someone (Breakage rmx)
Quantum Soul - Creation Dub
RSD - Speeka Box
Kromestar - Mo Fire
O-Dessa - Hell Gate LDN (dub)
Quantum Soul - Resurrection (dub)
Von D ft Phephe - Love Music (forthcoming Argon)
Utah Jazz - Take No More (N-Type remix)
Kromestar - Devil
Mala - Miracles
O-Dessa - Classical Remix (dub)
O-Dessa - The Runaway (dub)
nice tracklist mate, looks like a set I would want to hear..
big up to all stateside massive holding it down

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Re: America vs UK

Post by werdman » Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:04 pm

UK, can't even compare. Sounds crazy but I think it's because of the weather. Hard to make a dark track when the sun's shining, London is nice & grey

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Re: America vs UK

Post by clemsonheadies » Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:18 pm

Basic A wrote:WTF's the difference? Sound doesnt care what part of the planet its on.


Unless its in Canada, then it better sound like transformers boxing or gtfo!
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Re: America vs UK

Post by Blerim » Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:10 pm

I'm rating more and more US dubstep these days
the new DJG release on transistor is among the best plates of the year and definitely better than anything that's come out of the US before

US doing big tings, but of course with the absolute wealth of producers the UK is still running tings!
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Re: America vs UK

Post by pkay » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:39 pm

werdman wrote:UK, can't even compare. Sounds crazy but I think it's because of the weather. Hard to make a dark track when the sun's shining, London is nice & grey
You do realize the US is about 35 times the size of the UK and geographically speaking we have tons of 'grey' cities in the US?

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Re: America vs UK

Post by feral witchchild » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:50 pm

I probably like and listen to more UK stuff in general but there is really good music coming out of the US, as well.

Take VVV's shit, for example. That dude puts most 2step/"future garage" producers to shame, regardless of where they're from. lol

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Post by joeki » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:52 pm

pkay wrote:
werdman wrote:UK, can't even compare. Sounds crazy but I think it's because of the weather. Hard to make a dark track when the sun's shining, London is nice & grey
You do realize the US is about 35 times the size of the UK and geographically speaking we have tons of 'grey' cities in the US?
Haha :) Seattle is like the greyest city EVAAAA

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Post by fractal » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:16 pm

joeki wrote:
pkay wrote:
werdman wrote:UK, can't even compare. Sounds crazy but I think it's because of the weather. Hard to make a dark track when the sun's shining, London is nice & grey
You do realize the US is about 35 times the size of the UK and geographically speaking we have tons of 'grey' cities in the US?
Haha :) Seattle is like the greyest city EVAAAA
ya dun kno!

the internet killed this debate off about ten years ago by abolishing stylistic geographical lines
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Post by pkay » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:32 pm

fractal wrote:
joeki wrote:
pkay wrote:
werdman wrote:UK, can't even compare. Sounds crazy but I think it's because of the weather. Hard to make a dark track when the sun's shining, London is nice & grey
You do realize the US is about 35 times the size of the UK and geographically speaking we have tons of 'grey' cities in the US?
Haha :) Seattle is like the greyest city EVAAAA
ya dun kno!

the internet killed this debate off about ten years ago by abolishing stylistic geographical lines

yeah it's just not a relevant argument. It's like arguing "who has the best basketball players? US or UK?"

In the grand scheme of sports, basketball is pretty low on priorities in the UK. It's not that the UK isn't capable of making great basketball players, it's just that their culture doesn't put much emphasis on basketball. Their athletes are more interested in football or cricket.

in the US dubstep isn't the same thing socially that it is in the UK

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Re: America vs UK

Post by Ericcloud » Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:49 am

While the demand is different, does that effect the sounds coming out of an area?

I would think that It would, but I would also like to think that the sounds coming out of an area are a product of culture (American Culture produces a certain sound)

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Re: America vs UK

Post by MrWobbles » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:20 am

Different countries have different interpretations of music, so when bring dubstep to a different country, they mix the elements that are native to them into dubstep. Like pop in different countries sounds completely different in each country, even though it all fits in the same genre of pop.
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Re: America vs UK

Post by TOXIC_COAST » Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:36 pm

Dubstep is NOT from UK. If you study the stylistic origins of many popular music it all traces back to Africa. Almost all styles in the west are from Africa. Even Blues or Jazz, how this all developed into all this subgenres of electronic music is because of the blacks that were brought to the west to be slaves. Even drum n bass, is actually a sped up version of Motown music drum styles. So yeah dubstep's roots aren't in UK, its from jungle which originated from Reggae, which originated from Africa.

Hope this clears any doubt and all the pointless arguments.

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Re: America vs UK

Post by dr hugo » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:11 pm

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Re: America vs UK

Post by ianx215 » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:00 pm

wehlfest wrote:At some shows in the U.S., I've seen glow sticks, hula-hoopers and molly.

This definitely make me less interested in the scene here as well.
every dubstep show ive been too in Philly, Pittsburgh, B-more, New york, and D.C. there has been people glow sticking and drugs haha. Shit I even glowstick from time to time when im in the right state of mind. I listen to More UK producers but i am really digging a lot of the new American producers

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Re: America vs UK

Post by Sageon » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:29 pm

TOXIC_COAST wrote:Dubstep is NOT from UK. If you study the stylistic origins of many popular music it all traces back to Africa. Almost all styles in the west are from Africa. Even Blues or Jazz, how this all developed into all this subgenres of electronic music is because of the blacks that were brought to the west to be slaves. Even drum n bass, is actually a sped up version of Motown music drum styles. So yeah dubstep's roots aren't in UK, its from jungle which originated from Reggae, which originated from Africa.

Hope this clears any doubt and all the pointless arguments.
Cos Africa has a lot of output dunnit? If you study the evolutionary origins of human beings, we're all traced back to Africa. This does not make me African, savvy?

Same thing. The roots may not be UK but the eventual sound made from them is, it's called evolution ...

And reggae originated in Jamaica.

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Re: America vs UK

Post by mashmash » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:32 pm

TOXIC_COAST wrote:Dubstep is NOT from UK. If you study the stylistic origins of many popular music it all traces back to Africa. Almost all styles in the west are from Africa. Even Blues or Jazz, how this all developed into all this subgenres of electronic music is because of the blacks that were brought to the west to be slaves. Even drum n bass, is actually a sped up version of Motown music drum styles. So yeah dubstep's roots aren't in UK, its from jungle which originated from Reggae, which originated from Africa.

Hope this clears any doubt and all the pointless arguments.
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Re: America vs UK

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Re: America vs UK

Post by Brickhaus » Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:21 am

There's a hell of a lot more coming out of the UK, so you'll probably get better tracks overall coming out of the UK, but I like the median level from the US better. Part of that is probably just what I grew up with, being from the US. A lot of old gangsta rap influence and fidget house influence.

I'm just thrilled dubstep has taken off in the US. As someone who was (until around 2003) attempting to make a living DJing speed garage, then UKG and breaks / breakstep, then grime, I'm glad that one iteration has finally taken off and that I get to see DJs I like more than once every few months. But it hasn't taken off so much that it will kill things either. I mean, I once heard Katy on a Mission on a mainstream radio station, but that's pretty much the only dubstep I've ever heard in a semi-mainstream outlet.

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Re: America vs UK

Post by TOXIC_COAST » Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:20 pm

Lol sorry correction - Jamaica

And yeah I guess you're right about the evolution part, the 'sound' of dubstep, most could agree with 'evolved' within UK, a lil' misunderstanding that's all, don't hate ;)

But hey who cares, most importantly we all love dubstep, and happy 2011 guys

May the dubstep be with you

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Re: America vs UK

Post by brasco » Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:25 pm

ianx215 wrote:
wehlfest wrote:At some shows in the U.S., I've seen glow sticks, hula-hoopers and molly.

This definitely make me less interested in the scene here as well.
every dubstep show ive been too in Philly, Pittsburgh, B-more, New york, and D.C. there has been people glow sticking and drugs haha. Shit I even glowstick from time to time when im in the right state of mind. I listen to More UK producers but i am really digging a lot of the new American producers
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