yea you don't commit treason then brag about it and expect no consequences, especially if you're a gov't employeeAllNightDayDream wrote:It's truly a sad tale, but TBH he done goofd spilling his guts out about it.pkay wrote:also the major untold story is about the soldier they bought most of this information from and how he will likely either A) be executed or B) spend the rest of his life in leavenworth making small rocks out of large rocks.
As noble as he thinks what he's doing is, he condemned a man to death in order to create the meme of 2010
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Re: WikiLeaks
deadly habit wrote:yea you don't commit treason then brag about it and expect no consequences, especially if you're a gov't employeeAllNightDayDream wrote:It's truly a sad tale, but TBH he done goofd spilling his guts out about it.pkay wrote:also the major untold story is about the soldier they bought most of this information from and how he will likely either A) be executed or B) spend the rest of his life in leavenworth making small rocks out of large rocks.
As noble as he thinks what he's doing is, he condemned a man to death in order to create the meme of 2010
Re: WikiLeaks
deadly habit wrote:yea you don't commit treason then brag about it and expect no consequences, especially if you're a gov't employeeAllNightDayDream wrote:It's truly a sad tale, but TBH he done goofd spilling his guts out about it.pkay wrote:also the major untold story is about the soldier they bought most of this information from and how he will likely either A) be executed or B) spend the rest of his life in leavenworth making small rocks out of large rocks.
As noble as he thinks what he's doing is, he condemned a man to death in order to create the meme of 2010
soldiers don't get paid much.... you have to take into account the malicious intent of wikileaks. They purposely sought out a low level soldier who was young and impressionable, they knew his paygrade and permission, and purposely sought to use him knowing good and well when they published the articles he would be the scape goat.
If wikileaks were true champions of truth they'd willingly confront the governments after them as they would feel that this is public knowledge and that they had done nothing wrong.
Truth is wikileaks is an oportunistic venture based off of the iraqi war and surrounding events.... and if there wasn't money to be made they wouldn't have done it.
I'm not out to get this guy, just not buying his beacon of truth stance. He made a buck off an easy target
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you forget i'm ex army?pkay wrote:deadly habit wrote:yea you don't commit treason then brag about it and expect no consequences, especially if you're a gov't employeeAllNightDayDream wrote:It's truly a sad tale, but TBH he done goofd spilling his guts out about it.pkay wrote:also the major untold story is about the soldier they bought most of this information from and how he will likely either A) be executed or B) spend the rest of his life in leavenworth making small rocks out of large rocks.
As noble as he thinks what he's doing is, he condemned a man to death in order to create the meme of 2010
soldiers don't get paid much.... you have to take into account the malicious intent of wikileaks. They purposely sought out a low level soldier who was young and impressionable, they knew his paygrade and permission, and purposely sought to use him knowing good and well when they published the articles he would be the scape goat.
If wikileaks were true champions of truth they'd willingly confront the governments after them as they would feel that this is public knowledge and that they had done nothing wrong.
Truth is wikileaks is an oportunistic venture based off of the iraqi war and surrounding events.... and if there wasn't money to be made they wouldn't have done it.
I'm not out to get this guy, just not buying his beacon of truth stance. He made a buck off an easy target
and yea you'd figure for someone for "transparency" etc he's do a better job looking out for his sources or at least find ones who are smart enough to look out for themselves
assange really is just the public figurehead for a group whose motivations i really question
Re: WikiLeaks
deadly habit wrote:you forget i'm ex army?pkay wrote:deadly habit wrote:yea you don't commit treason then brag about it and expect no consequences, especially if you're a gov't employeeAllNightDayDream wrote:It's truly a sad tale, but TBH he done goofd spilling his guts out about it.pkay wrote:also the major untold story is about the soldier they bought most of this information from and how he will likely either A) be executed or B) spend the rest of his life in leavenworth making small rocks out of large rocks.
As noble as he thinks what he's doing is, he condemned a man to death in order to create the meme of 2010
soldiers don't get paid much.... you have to take into account the malicious intent of wikileaks. They purposely sought out a low level soldier who was young and impressionable, they knew his paygrade and permission, and purposely sought to use him knowing good and well when they published the articles he would be the scape goat.
If wikileaks were true champions of truth they'd willingly confront the governments after them as they would feel that this is public knowledge and that they had done nothing wrong.
Truth is wikileaks is an oportunistic venture based off of the iraqi war and surrounding events.... and if there wasn't money to be made they wouldn't have done it.
I'm not out to get this guy, just not buying his beacon of truth stance. He made a buck off an easy target![]()
and yea you'd figure for someone for "transparency" etc he's do a better job looking out for his sources or at least find ones who are smart enough to look out for themselves
assange really is just the public figurehead for a group whose motivations i really question
ex air force here.... i just dont see the glory in bribing an e-4. (also don't see why a 22 year old had TS-3 clearance but that's another story)
i just get the impression wikileaks would have cut any number of throats to build their name.
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you'd figure they'd publish some intell and documents from countries other than the US too 
			
			
									
									
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private manning got himself into shit by telling his bro about the leaks he gave up.
his bro told the authoritus!!
its just like when ya do anything sifty... don't saying anything to anyone other than those concerned!
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									his bro told the authoritus!!
its just like when ya do anything sifty... don't saying anything to anyone other than those concerned!
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Re: WikiLeaks
they only have this one source... once its done its done. dont know anyone stupid enough to leak to wikileaks anymoredeadly habit wrote:you'd figure they'd publish some intell and documents from countries other than the US too
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nah... even more people will leak info now!
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Re: WikiLeaks
yeah especially since they know they'll get put on trial and executed!Sirius wrote:nah... even more people will leak info now!
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since when did scare tactics stop anything?
since when did imprisonment stop anything?
the more martyrs there are... the more it becomes a revolution!
WHO IS AFRAID OF THE TRUTH??
why is transparency such a bad thing?
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									since when did imprisonment stop anything?
the more martyrs there are... the more it becomes a revolution!
WHO IS AFRAID OF THE TRUTH??
why is transparency such a bad thing?
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except these people arent about truth and martyrdom... they're about makin cashSirius wrote:since when did scare tactics stop anything?
since when did imprisonment stop anything?
the more martyrs there are... the more it becomes a revolution!
WHO IS AFRAID OF THE TRUTH??
why is transparency such a bad thing?
!!chea
kid who leaked was about cash, wikileaks is about cash
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what cash? got any links?
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I fail to see where exactly the money is being made. Donations? Wikileaks ain't exactly doin' so well these days.pkay wrote:except these people arent about truth and martyrdom... they're about makin cashSirius wrote:since when did scare tactics stop anything?
since when did imprisonment stop anything?
the more martyrs there are... the more it becomes a revolution!
WHO IS AFRAID OF THE TRUTH??
why is transparency such a bad thing?
!!chea
kid who leaked was about cash, wikileaks is about cash
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Re: WikiLeaks
most media outlets pay for appearances... fairly certain a book by mr j would sell a couple million copies, data mining from email lists/traffic info, plenty of ways to make money off websites without banners.collige wrote: I fail to see where exactly the money is being made. Donations? Wikileaks ain't exactly doin' so well these days.
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yup take a look at who was hosting them in the past, that and concerns over their paypal being shut down/frozen
there's a bit more than transparency and just exposing info going on like they lead on
			
			
									
									
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Fair enough. But why are you so certain that money is the primary goal behind this operation. Wikileaks was around long before the Manning/War Log stuff which got all this media attention. Where is the money to be made in the Somalia and Australia leaks?
			
			
									
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pkay, ya know there doesn't have to be a money making scheme behind everything!
sometimes the truth is more important than anything else.
we don't even know how many people are behind wikileaks, they get donations to run the show & do what they can
in our age of enlightenment!
I don't know many people who don't support wikileaks... if ya don't, explain why not!
truth, honesty, justice.... ya can't have one without the other!!
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									sometimes the truth is more important than anything else.
we don't even know how many people are behind wikileaks, they get donations to run the show & do what they can
in our age of enlightenment!
I don't know many people who don't support wikileaks... if ya don't, explain why not!
truth, honesty, justice.... ya can't have one without the other!!
!!chea
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Re: WikiLeaks
ffsknell wrote:hmm
Assange seeks bail money from supporters
donate for a cause, not to be someone's personal bankroll
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