Dear Beatport, 1/2 step dnb isn't dubstep. It's dnb

WatchYourStep · Post by **WatchYourStep** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:50 pm

It's not THAT annoying, but still, when has 175bpm ever been a part of the definition of dubstep?

illandnatti · Post by **illandnatti** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:54 pm

People have been calling it "Drumstep." I don't know what to call it, but you're right it's closer to DnB than dubstep.

Beatport is not widely known for defining genre's. They group a LOT of electro bands like Crookers and The Bloody Beetroots and almost the entire French electro scene into the same genre "Indie Dance." Don't expect them to know the difference between dubstep and "1/2 step 175bpm DnB."

WatchYourStep · Post by **WatchYourStep** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:15 pm

Well I assumed the first few like "Bass Head" by Bassnectar were just innocent mistakes.

mikey_g · Post by **mikey_g** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:27 am

I think he means distance's new autonomic ep is listed as dubstep. Hardly the end of the world tho

WatchYourStep · Post by **WatchYourStep** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:26 am

Somebody quickly change wikipedia: "Dubstep is usually at 175bpm, but can sometimes dip as low as 140".

1017_duck · Post by **1017_duck** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:02 am

nice thread!

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:46 am

*BREAKING NEWS* Beatport in not giving a fuck about anything unless its your credit card shocker! This has never happened before, so jaws are dropping in disbelief.

joeroxor · Post by **joeroxor** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:09 am

seckle wrote:*BREAKING NEWS* Beatport in not giving a fuck about anything unless its your credit card shocker! This has never happened before, so jaws are dropping in disbelief.

Also they're second place in caring less about an artist's hungry mouth with iTunes in a strong lead.

quidz · Post by **quidz** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:20 am

Simple...ditch beatport..switch to boomkat.

buddstep · Post by **buddstep** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:07 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubstep#Characteristics

quick look before they change it back

Kid_Robotik · Post by **Kid_Robotik** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:14 am

the whole "drumstep" thing really annoys me.
im pretty sure i heard 1/2 jump up drum n bass before bassnectar and datsik etc started this "drumstep" pish.

i mean its still sick, after all its just jump up. people need to stop coinin phrases for everythin, Filthstep & Deathstep just takes the piss tho

brokedjs · Post by **brokedjs** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:37 am

The guys on Ganja (Hypes Label) were doing this long before it took off, that was the first instance I had heard of it, except perhaps Bassnectar who in my opinion were always way ahead of the game.

When we first started mixing one of the first tunes we bought was Bassnectar - Everybody, im talking years and years ago, and its funny to see that they were pushing this so long ago.

But yea, Beatport need to fix up, I dont know if its down to limitations on their system but the place needs a serious overhaul.
Fuck Flash sites basically, its not big, its not clever and only really works for one shot quick promotions of media, not a dedicated site offering services IMO.

bobby_dozen · Post by **bobby_dozen** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:03 pm

Lets not do the whole "Who did half-step first" argument. I think most people doing it these days are waste compared to Amit, who has been doing it forever...

etc. etc.

WatchYourStep · Post by **WatchYourStep** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:47 pm

buddstep wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubstep#Characteristics

quick look before they change it back

Haha I missed it. Did you change it back out of guilt?

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:21 pm

joeroxor wrote:
seckle wrote:*BREAKING NEWS* Beatport in not giving a fuck about anything unless its your credit card shocker! This has never happened before, so jaws are dropping in disbelief.
Also they're second place in caring less about an artist's hungry mouth with iTunes in a strong lead.

itunes is different in the sense that they focus on all genre's, the full spectrum, and they have a certain amount of structure in place to weed out the bullshit, and make it harder for you to flood their system with it. beatport started out properly, and turned into a fucking nightmare, because there's absolutely no quality control whatsoever. they are now the mcdonalds of shitty dancemusic. as long as idiots keep paying for mediocrity, they'll have the burgers warm and ready.

forget dubstep for a moment. just go listen to their house section. its a joke.

WatchYourStep · Post by **WatchYourStep** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:33 pm

seckle wrote:
joeroxor wrote:
seckle wrote:*BREAKING NEWS* Beatport in not giving a fuck about anything unless its your credit card shocker! This has never happened before, so jaws are dropping in disbelief.
Also they're second place in caring less about an artist's hungry mouth with iTunes in a strong lead.
itunes is different in the sense that they focus on all genre's, the full spectrum, and they have a certain amount of structure in place to weed out the bullshit, and make it harder for you to flood their system with it. beatport started out properly, and turned into a fucking nightmare, because there's absolutely no quality control whatsoever. they are now the mcdonalds of shitty dancemusic. as long as idiots keep paying for mediocrity, they'll have the burgers warm and ready.

forget dubstep for a moment. just go listen to their house section. its a joke.

Using your example, which vendor do you feel does a better job at offering quality house music?

prisoner · Post by **prisoner** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:00 pm

bobby_dozen wrote:Lets not do the whole "Who did half-step first" argument. I think most people doing it these days are waste compared to Amit, who has been doing it forever...

etc. etc.

and Digital before him.

(pretty sure photek had some half-steppy stuff in the late 90s too....)

Caski · Post by **Caski** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:52 pm

id consider it dnb not dubstep, its like calling "the epic last song" dnb

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:30 pm

WatchYourStep wrote:
seckle wrote:
joeroxor wrote:
seckle wrote:*BREAKING NEWS* Beatport in not giving a fuck about anything unless its your credit card shocker! This has never happened before, so jaws are dropping in disbelief.
Also they're second place in caring less about an artist's hungry mouth with iTunes in a strong lead.
itunes is different in the sense that they focus on all genre's, the full spectrum, and they have a certain amount of structure in place to weed out the bullshit, and make it harder for you to flood their system with it. beatport started out properly, and turned into a fucking nightmare, because there's absolutely no quality control whatsoever. they are now the mcdonalds of shitty dancemusic. as long as idiots keep paying for mediocrity, they'll have the burgers warm and ready.

forget dubstep for a moment. just go listen to their house section. its a joke.
Using your example, which vendor do you feel does a better job at offering quality house music?

https://www.stompy.com/#s=singles&v=&sv ... o2=&o=&pn=
http://bandcamp.com/tag/house
http://bandcamp.com/tag/dubstep?sort_as ... field=date
http://www.kompakt.fm/releases

DREdio · Post by **DREdio** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:59 pm

WatchYourStep wrote:Well I assumed the first few like "Bass Head" by Bassnectar were just innocent mistakes.

i dont get why people group Bassnectar in with dubstep. His music cant really be placed into a single bass music sub- genre. Although he is releasing more tracks around 140 nowadays, anyone who has listened to his earlier music will know that he is genre defying. the man is simply a master of bass

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