Oh dear... "dubstep" sample cd

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Post by metalboxproducts » Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:56 am

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Re: Oh dear... "dubstep" sample cd

Post by toxin » Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:01 pm

elemental wrote:
Dubstep from Loopmasters is a brand new Download Pack featuring over 170MB of brand new beats, bass, synths and Sound FX for new wave musicians, producers and DJs looking to incorporate some authentic Dubstep samples into their productions!

The term 'dubstep' was coined by Ammunition Promotions and first used on an XLR8R magazine cover that featured Horsepower Productions. It gained full acceptance with the Dubstep Allstars Vol 1 CD (Tempa) mixed by DJ Hatcha.

In 2007 dubstep producers are increasingly absorbing dub reggae sonic aesthetics - sub bass, reverb and delay - to forge a distinct path away from associate genres like drum & bass, house and breaks. Using different rhythmic patterns like the 2step and halfstep beat patterns (yet deployed in the same tempo range) dubstep can create senses of differing momentum within the same DJ set. At best, dub reggae sonic aesthetics also allow a broad range of new musical influences to be introduced with a sense of coherence.

The Pack was created by Toni Ann Gray of Bulletproof Breaks, and includes 15 atmosphere pads, 48 Dubstep Basslines, 30 Drumloops, 13 Sfx Hits, 17 Melody Loops and 50 Dubstep Drum Hits.

Also included are RMX compatible Rex2 Samples for all the Loops and 22 Patches ready to play in Kontakt, Halion, Reason NNXT and SFZ.

What a load of bullshit. There goes the inovation of new producers.

"to forge a distinct path away from associate genres like drum & bass, house and breaks" - Laughable. :evil:
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Post by purecain » Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:27 am

you get people that have a good ear for music, these people find the sound design and creativity easy and the experimentation something to do while your smokin... i love listenin to a wave for the first time ever. knowing no one else has heard it never mind used it to make a tune. true producers into dubstep will keep things moving forward. them peoples that make complete beats with samples will all end up with simple shit....
and never nothin new just reworked overdone shit.

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Post by deadly_habit » Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:51 am

christ all you sanctimonious fucks need to stfu
if you've been producing for a long time you'd realize *gasp* even big producers use sample cds
maybe this is some piss poor put together cd but shit my guess is some unknown will use it and come out with some tune people will be asking where orig sample came from
ie: dnb wise i have some sample cds from 98 that tech itch and ed and optical used for bigger tunes that was a "shitty sample cd"

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Post by shonky » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:52 am

metalboxproducts wrote:
gravious wrote: Image

hahaha................ :D
Shut up MBP - I so need one of these. The only reason I've not been coming up with generic dubstep is that I'm unable to make it. This should really help me in my quest to be more similar.

It's all about fitting in. What's with all this "experimental" business?
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Post by misk » Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:55 am

Deadly Habit wrote:christ all you sanctimonious fucks need to stfu
if you've been producing for a long time you'd realize *gasp* even big producers use sample cds
maybe this is some piss poor put together cd but shit my guess is some unknown will use it and come out with some tune people will be asking where orig sample came from
ie: dnb wise i have some sample cds from 98 that tech itch and ed and optical used for bigger tunes that was a "shitty sample cd"
yeah? well, your a pooh-face. 8)

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Post by shokman » Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:05 am

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Post by toxin » Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:12 pm

Deadly Habit wrote:christ all you sanctimonious fucks need to stfu
if you've been producing for a long time you'd realize *gasp* even big producers use sample cds
maybe this is some piss poor put together cd but shit my guess is some unknown will use it and come out with some tune people will be asking where orig sample came from
ie: dnb wise i have some sample cds from 98 that tech itch and ed and optical used for bigger tunes that was a "shitty sample cd"
Yeah your right, big producers use sample cd's, I use sample cd's and im sure alot of the producers on this site do.

What im screwing about is the fact that they are chatting shit and are gonna make money from producers starting out who want to improve their sound.

"In 2007? dubstep producers are increasingly absorbing dub reggae sonic aesthetics - sub bass, reverb and delay" - are they?

"50 Dubstep Drum Hits" - wtf are dubstep drum hits?

The point Im trying to make is that there is no such thing as dubstep hits and so on. This music (dubstep) is exciting because it is one of the only genres that is not formulaic and you (as a producer) can do what the f**k you want; within reason.
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Post by vonboyage » Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:07 pm

Toxin wrote:This music (dubstep) is exciting because it is one of the only genres that is not formulaic and you (as a producer) can do what the f**k you want; within reason.
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Post by jahtao » Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:55 pm

gravious wrote: "Ok, so I have the Dubstep samples. What do I do next??!!?!?! ZoMG!!11!"
Most comedic.


Othernews: i'm of the opinion that Reason is much like one big sample cd. (Boooooooo!!). Good and original things can be done with it of course (hooray!) but i reckon the generic and plasticy odds do go up. (Booooooo!!!!).

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Post by r33lc4sh » Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:29 pm

gravious wrote: The next question will be:

"Ok, so I have the Dubstep samples. What do I do next??!!?!?! ZoMG!!11!"
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Post by rekordah » Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:48 pm

jahtao wrote: i'm of the opinion that Reason is much like one big sample cd.
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Post by blip » Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:08 am

2000 "Jah" Samples was brilliant.

I don't care where if your sounds come from a sacred burial ground in Jupiter or from the 7-11, as long as they smell honest.

Sampling from a sample CD and twisting it

OR

Trying to replicate sounds and styles from other tunes?

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Post by gravious » Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:25 am

rekorder wrote:
jahtao wrote: i'm of the opinion that Reason is much like one big sample cd.
SECONDED!
Only if your inexperienced/shit at using it, and use the presets (which are pretty poor for the most part).

Admitedly, it does constrain you a little if its your only sequencer, but its easy to use and rewire it.

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Post by gravious » Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:30 am

Deadly Habit wrote:christ all you sanctimonious fucks need to stfu
if you've been producing for a long time you'd realize *gasp* even big producers use sample cds
maybe this is some piss poor put together cd but shit my guess is some unknown will use it and come out with some tune people will be asking where orig sample came from
ie: dnb wise i have some sample cds from 98 that tech itch and ed and optical used for bigger tunes that was a "shitty sample cd"
I know, I just think its a cash-in, and I find it disappointing, because this sort of thing can help a sound to stagnate. By putting a bunch of sounds on a cd and saying "this is Dubstep", you are pushing aspiring producers in a certain direction, which I think is a shame.

By the way, has anyone listened to the sample of this?
Doesn't sound that bad.

A trifle generic though.

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Post by flippo » Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:33 am

gravious wrote:
rekorder wrote:
jahtao wrote: i'm of the opinion that Reason is much like one big sample cd.
SECONDED!
Only if your inexperienced/shit at using it, and use the presets (which are pretty poor for the most part).

Admitedly, it does constrain you a little if its your only sequencer, but its easy to use and rewire it.
hah everyone hates on reason

I use it, and I think I'm pretty different to most dubstep :).

there is alot of generic shit on there though. I imagine if you were using it to make, hiphop or liquind DnB for example, and used all presets and pre made loops and samples, you would sound like every tnuc.

But on the flip side, I find it increadably easy to get my head around, which means I can make shit happen quickly, and with fuck all strain on CPU. The whole creative process becomes really smooth when you are comfortable, more likley to spend time experiementing and pushing boundaries.

Then just bounce to cubase, to make it sound less shit.

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Post by blip » Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:35 am

gravious wrote: because this sort of thing can help a sound to stagnate. By putting a bunch of sounds on a cd and saying "this is Dubstep", you are pushing aspiring producers in a certain direction
Totally disagree. It makes the need to move on more obvious, helps it evolve. And if a producer gets being pushed in any direction by a sample CD... well, there was not much good coming anyway.

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Post by gravious » Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:13 pm

Blip wrote:
gravious wrote: because this sort of thing can help a sound to stagnate. By putting a bunch of sounds on a cd and saying "this is Dubstep", you are pushing aspiring producers in a certain direction
Totally disagree. It makes the need to move on more obvious, helps it evolve. And if a producer gets being pushed in any direction by a sample CD... well, there was not much good coming anyway.
Yeah, true, it could have a positive effect. A target of "what not to sound like". Lets hope so eh? :wink:

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Post by blip » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:08 pm

Indeed!

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Post by ozols man » Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:59 pm

gravious wrote:By putting a bunch of sounds on a cd and saying "this is Dubstep", you are pushing aspiring producers in a certain direction, which I think is a shame.
the way i see it, if this is the mentality of upcoming producers, i dont think theyre gonna get very far..

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