warnin- people ripping myspace audio and sharing on soulseek

[distinction]

So basically if it isnt high enough quality to play out, cut, press up noone can make money from your tune and at the end of the day if its on Soul Seek its going to get around and that means good promotion for yourself.

^^^ true
don't underestimate power of the soulseek young jedi

Well i know enough to know pressing up 500 copies of a 64Kbps tune means you are thick in the head with 500 tunes in your car boot which aint gonna sell and also any DJ who cuts a 64Kbps tune to dub will get laughed at seriously hard. Finally anybody who pays money for a low quality mp3 that you cant even define the high frequencies what so ever is quite clearly a numb skull.

Just make sure you don't put high quality clips on the internet and also make sure people you give tunes to over the net you trust fully.

Thank you please.

[r33lc4sh]

So basically if it isnt high enough quality to play out, cut, press up noone can make money from your tune and at the end of the day if its on Soul Seek its going to get around and that means good promotion for yourself.

^^^ true
don't underestimate power of the soulseek young jedi

Well i know enough to know pressing up 500 copies of a 64Kbps tune means you are thick in the head with 500 tunes in your car boot which aint gonna sell and also any DJ who cuts a 64Kbps tune to dub will get laughed at seriously hard. Finally anybody who pays money for a low quality mp3 that you cant even define the high frequencies what so ever is quite clearly a numb skull.

Just make sure you don't put high quality clips on the internet and also make sure people you give tunes to over the net you trust fully.

Thank you please.

^^^true
accusing soulseek for stoping record sales is stupid but putting on the internet hi quality tunes which u want to release is even more stupid

my sentence about power of soulseek was about promotion not cutting dubs

distinction - i agree with everything u said

[Rob H]

^ thank you, you expressed pretty much what i was trying to say all along

[seckle]

So basically if it isnt high enough quality to play out, cut, press up noone can make money from your tune and at the end of the day if its on Soul Seek its going to get around and that means good promotion for yourself.

^^^ true
don't underestimate power of the soulseek young jedi

Well i know enough to know pressing up 500 copies of a 64Kbps tune means you are thick in the head with 500 tunes in your car boot which aint gonna sell and also any DJ who cuts a 64Kbps tune to dub will get laughed at seriously hard. Finally anybody who pays money for a low quality mp3 that you cant even define the high frequencies what so ever is quite clearly a numb skull.

Just make sure you don't put high quality clips on the internet and also make sure people you give tunes to over the net you trust fully.

Thank you please.

^^^true
accusing soulseek for stoping record sales is stupid but putting on the internet hi quality tunes which u want to release is even more stupid

my sentence about power of soulseek was about promotion not cutting dubs

distinction - i agree with everything u said

let's not turn this into a "soulseek is amazing" thread. it serves no one except the people that leech off it.
that whole promotional benefit argument is completely unfounded and based on nothing but hot air.

[luke.envoy]

accusing soulseek for stoping record sales is stupid but putting on the internet hi quality tunes which u want to release is even more stupid

uh,
no one has put high quality tunes on the net tho have they, and we're talking about people abusing streaming audio, not just record sales

[r33lc4sh]

So basically if it isnt high enough quality to play out, cut, press up noone can make money from your tune and at the end of the day if its on Soul Seek its going to get around and that means good promotion for yourself.

^^^ true
don't underestimate power of the soulseek young jedi

Well i know enough to know pressing up 500 copies of a 64Kbps tune means you are thick in the head with 500 tunes in your car boot which aint gonna sell and also any DJ who cuts a 64Kbps tune to dub will get laughed at seriously hard. Finally anybody who pays money for a low quality mp3 that you cant even define the high frequencies what so ever is quite clearly a numb skull.

Just make sure you don't put high quality clips on the internet and also make sure people you give tunes to over the net you trust fully.

Thank you please.

^^^true
accusing soulseek for stoping record sales is stupid but putting on the internet hi quality tunes which u want to release is even more stupid

my sentence about power of soulseek was about promotion not cutting dubs

distinction - i agree with everything u said

let's not turn this into a "soulseek is amazing" thread. it serves no one except the people that leech off it.
that whole promotional benefit arguement is completely unfounded and based on nothing but hot air.

i'd rather say your opinion is unfounded
there are places in the world (i assume more of the planet) where record shops are shit and there are no pirate radios
how people get into new sounds? through internet

[r33lc4sh]

accusing soulseek for stoping record sales is stupid but putting on the internet hi quality tunes which u want to release is even more stupid

uh,
no one has put high quality tunes on the net tho have they, and we're talking about people abusing streaming audio, not just record sales

imho this is same situation as recording a track from radio

[seckle]

there are places in the world (i assume more of the planet) where record shops are shit and there are no pirate radios
how people get into new sounds? through internet

there's the net and then there's soulseek. both one in the same, yet drastically different.
stream a radio set. listen to clips and mixes. legally download. order records through the mail.
music is for everyone but it's also a business. either you're with the team or you're riding on it's back. it's up to you to decide.
that's the way i see it and until you can show me proof that soulseek is helping things, i'll be 150% against it.

[luke.envoy]

accusing soulseek for stoping record sales is stupid but putting on the internet hi quality tunes which u want to release is even more stupid

uh,
no one has put high quality tunes on the net tho have they, and we're talking about people abusing streaming audio, not just record sales

imho this is same situation as recording a track from radio

radio doesnt play unmixed dubs with no mc on it.
djs wouldnt do that for people to record

however much you love leeching on soulseek, abuse is abuse and those streams arent being use how they were intended by the people giving you the audio in the first place

[dubway]

until you can show me proof that soulseek is helping things, i'll be 150% against it.

hmmm.. if there wasn't slsk (and other p2p shit) croatia would today probably have 2 djs spining any kind of music produced in UK in last 10 years, and 4 ppl who would listen those djs (once a year)

[threnody]

Cheers for bringing this to our attention Luke. I will add a couple of sounds/adverts to mine this evening.

Some good points about the audio. I think it is slightly worse than recording off the radio as there isn't any presenter chat or static.

As for people putting stuff on soulseek it's out of order. One thing to rip the track for personal use if it isn't out and you buy it when it is but distributing stuff to others is wrong. Obviously we all want dubstep to reach as many people as possible but the scene is growing steadily and ripping music for free is only going to hold the scene up.

I remember a few tracks of mine got posted up on this site a while back and knackered my bandwidth due to so many people downloading it. Fortunatly they were unfinished so no real damage done and it was a good way of getting my tracks onto people's Ipods but I'm certainly more cautious now about completed tracks.

Myspace is a great way to promote your sound tho but piracy is obviously a problem. Putting extra bits on (like paul rose) may annoy those listening for free but the final tracks will be available to all at the usual outlets in good time.

[hamzen]

So basically if it isnt high enough quality to play out, cut, press up noone can make money from your tune and at the end of the day if its on Soul Seek its going to get around and that means good promotion for yourself.

^^^ true
don't underestimate power of the soulseek young jedi

Well i know enough to know pressing up 500 copies of a 64Kbps tune means you are thick in the head with 500 tunes in your car boot which aint gonna sell and also any DJ who cuts a 64Kbps tune to dub will get laughed at seriously hard. Finally anybody who pays money for a low quality mp3 that you cant even define the high frequencies what so ever is quite clearly a numb skull.

Just make sure you don't put high quality clips on the internet and also make sure people you give tunes to over the net you trust fully.

Thank you please.

^^^true
accusing soulseek for stoping record sales is stupid but putting on the internet hi quality tunes which u want to release is even more stupid

my sentence about power of soulseek was about promotion not cutting dubs

distinction - i agree with everything u said

let's not turn this into a "soulseek is amazing" thread. it serves no one except the people that leech off it.
that whole promotional benefit argument is completely unfounded and based on nothing but hot air.

Hmmm, maybe but I'm living proof that the argument isn't straightforward.

Finally tracked down a copy of Kingstown Dub on vinyl which arrived today, I've had it as an mp3 for weeks.

And that's true for every bit of dubstep vinyl I've bought so far except for Skreamism.
When you're getting as inspird as I am by this stuff, well respect for producers etc etc

[r33lc4sh]

until you can show me proof that soulseek is helping things, i'll be 150% against it.

hmmm.. if there wasn't slsk (and other p2p shit) croatia would today probably have 2 djs spining any kind of music produced in UK in last 10 years, and 4 ppl who would listen those djs (once a year)

same here

[r33lc4sh]

there are places in the world (i assume more of the planet) where record shops are shit and there are no pirate radios
how people get into new sounds? through internet

there's the net and then there's soulseek. both one in the same, yet drastically different.
stream a radio set. listen to clips and mixes. legally download. order records through the mail.
music is for everyone but it's also a business. either you're with the team or you're riding on it's back. it's up to you to decide.
that's the way i see it and until you can show me proof that soulseek is helping things, i'll be 150% against it.

do u really think that if u ban soulseek all those people will start buying vinyls??? ROTFL!
u don't release on cd - u don't care about soulseek
1. people who buy vinyls (DJs and freaks) will buy them anyway
2. not every tune which has a vinyl release is availible as a payable download
3. people get familiar with your sound and u get more international bookings

[paulie]

Calm down guys.

[andythetwig]

i think the music recording industry is a temporary, century long "gold rush" that is receding...

It was created by a man with a wax cylinder, but now we've all not only got wax cylinders, but machines which make the noises for us... The "techniques" you use to create "your" sound are simply calculated distortions of the recording process... and since we've all got the tools, the recorded music has been devalued to the point of worthlessness.

Recorded music, whether you like it or not, it's on it's way out as a method of making money.

In future all recordings will be free, and used solely for the purposes of promoting live performance.

so let your recordings blossom through filesharing, soulseek could make you famous! lets have some live dubstep bands and improvised, exile style live PA's at FWD, because the only thing unique and lasting about your recordings is YOU...

[r33lc4sh]

^^^heavy words m8 but i have to agree

i can play guitar in the dubstep band
who else is joining? paul i know u've been playing guitar too

[paulie]

My guitar and bass playing can be heard on a tune on Hatcha's recent mixes.

[r33lc4sh]

i always wanted to be a drummer - that's why i started to make tunes on my PC

[paulie]

I used to be a decent enough drummer. Haven't played for ages though.