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Re: Self promotion techniques

Post by deadly_habit » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:13 pm

yea i'm slowly making it proper format etc, that's half the reason i'm slow with updates. don't just wanna do random chatter and format like i do on here

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Re: Self promotion techniques

Post by mks » Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:02 am

It's interesting though, the amount of producers has proliferated over the last several years. Due in no small part the availability and accessibility of production software. Everybody wants the same thing, to get their tunes out there and heard. I think it's probably harder now than it ever was.

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Re: Self promotion techniques

Post by hifi » Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:43 am

jaimelee wrote:Here's a little story that happened on the 27th..

I walked into the pub, one of the club owners from my area was there.
I said "How come you never got back to me about that mix?"
He says "I'm really sorry lad, come down to the club tomorrow and I'll let you get sorted out!"

Life is good :h:

Just do as you said and also talk to club owners, studio peoples etc and you're golden!
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I know a guy who is club owner at this venue in Hollywood and I'm good friends with him, he has asked me to send over some mixes but I never did since I was too high to remember his e-mail address.

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Re: Self promotion techniques

Post by Grumblex » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:11 am

Depone wrote:First and foremost - Write great music. It will get heard

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Re: Self promotion techniques

Post by deadly_habit » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:49 am

mks wrote:It's interesting though, the amount of producers has proliferated over the last several years. Due in no small part the availability and accessibility of production software. Everybody wants the same thing, to get their tunes out there and heard. I think it's probably harder now than it ever was.
there are the proper channels and methods that people on here can attest to though
there are also those annoyances that are flash in the pan and just generally as prolific as a broken condom as well

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Re: Self promotion techniques

Post by mks » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:59 am

Yeah, the methods are still the same and that is good networking (something that I'm really shitty at TBH).

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Re: Self promotion techniques

Post by abZ » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:10 am

wub wrote:
Depone wrote:First and foremost - Write great music. It will get heard

Disagree. Some little fat girl in Iowa could be the Mozart of Dubstep right now, but if she's not letting anyone know then in that cornfield she will remain.
I disagree with the disagree. Depone has it straight. I never saw him doing all this stupid shit on facebook and sound cloud and yet he has multiple vinyl releases. In fact I can't recall any of the big names going crazy with the spam and demanding attention. I also have never seen these spammers blow up and really make something of themselves. I am sure there are examples and if you can come up with them fantastic but my point stands. I really do think if your shit is good enough people will find you. Now promotion tactics may take mediocre talent to the next level but do you really want to be that guy? Sadly a lot of folks do. Just chill I say. Spend the time on the beats not on the "streets".

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Re: Self promotion techniques

Post by EDN » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:24 am

I'm kind of on the fence here, its a tricky situation indeed.

Say you have been producing for a few years and not really promoted yourself because you were waiting for the time when you thought
"yeah actually, my tunes are pretty decent I wanna get myself out there"
You are then confronted with the dilemma of what to do next... do you go and send your stuff to lots of people and try and get a buzz going?
Do you send it to a few people with maybe a slightly bigger influence, knowing that they would be less likely to listen to it because of all of the other people sending them music?
Or do you just wait for the world to come to you?
It is a conundrum indeed and I don't think that any one way is right or wrong...

...however the "being chased by down the high street" idea is a stroke of genius...
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Re: Self promotion techniques

Post by deadly_habit » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:13 am

if you want something to happen you have to actively pursue it, not just sit on your ass and pray it does

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Re: Self promotion techniques

Post by sprayyypaint » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:16 am

EDN wrote:I'm kind of on the fence here, its a tricky situation indeed.

Say you have been producing for a few years and not really promoted yourself because you were waiting for the time when you thought
"yeah actually, my tunes are pretty decent I wanna get myself out there"
You are then confronted with the dilemma of what to do next... do you go and send your stuff to lots of people and try and get a buzz going?
Do you send it to a few people with maybe a slightly bigger influence, knowing that they would be less likely to listen to it because of all of the other people sending them music?
Or do you just wait for the world to come to you?
It is a conundrum indeed and I don't think that any one way is right or wrong...

...however the "being chased by down the high street" idea is a stroke of genius...
a logical solution would be to do both, no?
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Re: Self promotion techniques

Post by wub » Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:14 am

abZ wrote:
wub wrote:
Depone wrote:First and foremost - Write great music. It will get heard

Disagree. Some little fat girl in Iowa could be the Mozart of Dubstep right now, but if she's not letting anyone know then in that cornfield she will remain.
I disagree with the disagree. Depone has it straight. I never saw him doing all this stupid shit on facebook and sound cloud and yet he has multiple vinyl releases. In fact I can't recall any of the big names going crazy with the spam and demanding attention. I also have never seen these spammers blow up and really make something of themselves. I am sure there are examples and if you can come up with them fantastic but my point stands. I really do think if your shit is good enough people will find you. Now promotion tactics may take mediocre talent to the next level but do you really want to be that guy? Sadly a lot of folks do. Just chill I say. Spend the time on the beats not on the "streets".


There is a difference between not spamming and doing absolutely nothing though. You need to have some level of self promotion. Making beats by yourself and not telling anyone won't achieve anything.

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Re: Self promotion techniques

Post by deadly_habit » Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:20 am

yea but there has to be a balance of behind the scene work and networking, exclusive tunes you don't toss up everywhere etc
not just popping every lil thing you make on soundcloud etc and spamming it to hell and back
a lot of people need to learn to exercise some amount of quality control over their own work before it hits the next step of sharing with anyone else
also if you've only been producing for a little while do yourself and the world a service and keep your tracks to yourself until you get to a decent level
unless you're some sort of prodigy sending those tunes about or having all over the place will bite you in the ass later on

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Post by wub » Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:26 am

deadly habit wrote:yea but there has to be a balance of behind the scene work and networking, exclusive tunes you don't toss up everywhere etc
not just popping every lil thing you make on soundcloud etc and spamming it to hell and back

Fully agreed.

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Re: Self promotion techniques

Post by tavravlavish » Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:29 am

I got a new tune in my sig, check it out bitches! :4:

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Re: Self promotion techniques

Post by MOTHERDAVID » Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:45 pm

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Re: Self promotion techniques

Post by module » Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:14 pm

Depone wrote:First and foremost - Write great music. It will get heard

This.

If people like something, it will blow up n get massive on its own (ty internet). This is how I know how good I am :(

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Re: Self promotion techniques

Post by abZ » Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:47 am

I have just noticed this one on facebook. I don't notice a lot because I have like 2k people on the list but recently I have noticed a few of these. Put a pic of a chick as your profile pic and a chick name and then post dubstep youtubes and shit all day. Kinda clever actually but not I am going to have to shit can a couple of these "freinds" heheh

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Re: Self promotion techniques

Post by deadly_habit » Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:56 am

but most of those "chicks" have horrible taste

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Re: Self promotion techniques

Post by abZ » Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:13 am

deadly habit wrote:but most of those "chicks" have horrible taste
Unless you are in to the filf m8!

And I just report some people as being a fake profile lolz I don't fuck around anymore. Been reporting people like crazy.

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Re: Self promotion techniques

Post by Kes-Es » Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:21 am

deadly habit wrote: a lot of people need to learn to exercise some amount of quality control over their own work before it hits the next step of sharing with anyone else
also if you've only been producing for a little while do yourself and the world a service and keep your tracks to yourself until you get to a decent level
unless you're some sort of prodigy sending those tunes about or having all over the place will bite you in the ass later on
How do you know you're at a decent level?
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