Is it possible to overuse samples?

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LetsGoBlues91
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Is it possible to overuse samples?

Post by LetsGoBlues91 » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:53 pm

I bought a bunch of primeloops/loopmasters packs and really like some of the drum loops. I wanted to make a tune using some of the drum loops and then coming in with a bassline of my own. If I add some of the FX, that won't be overdoing it I hope?

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Re: Is it possible to overuse samples?

Post by nylle » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:57 pm

it's not about the samples you use it's about how you use the samples ! :6:

i think heh
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Re: Is it possible to overuse samples?

Post by jaimelee » Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:07 am

Just tweak them about and make them your own, then everyone won't mind at all.
(Or notice, unless they are really hating at that moment in time.)

Unless you make the entire tune out of the samples without much change and then people are going to notice mate.

Good luck, must hear what you create! :D:

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Re: Is it possible to overuse samples?

Post by LetsGoBlues91 » Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:27 am

jaimelee wrote:Just tweak them about and make them your own, then everyone won't mind at all.
(Or notice, unless they are really hating at that moment in time.)

Unless you make the entire tune out of the samples without much change and then people are going to notice mate.

Good luck, must hear what you create! :D:

good advice! thanks for it.

I have a lot of good ideas that will involve samples. I will shoot them your way as I complete them!

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Re: Is it possible to overuse samples?

Post by amphibian » Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:48 am

Chop and slice up the drum loops in your favourite DAW - it then becomes your own. Just make sure that the drum samples and loops you use are as dry as they can be - this ensures that you can add your own FX on top that makes it "YOUR" loop/drums. If you're using drum loops that have a heap of distortion, compression, reverb.etc. - then it limits your creativity.

You can never over-use samples. My remix of Grooki's quiet is built almost entirely on his synths and samples, though they're very heavily tweaked and modified to the point where hardly any of them sound like the original, with just a few dry ones thrown in to make sure there is a relationship between the two tracks, and also to pay homage to what is an excellent tune (his version).

One point to note here is that ANY sound can be used using ANY sample, you just need to know how :) You can build tracks without any sort of synthesis.
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Re: Is it possible to overuse samples?

Post by paravrais » Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:59 am

If all your gonna do is put in someone else's drum loop and effects and all your gonna do is play a bassline over the top then why not just use dance ejay or something...

Using samples is fine if you do it creatively but if you just want someone else to make your track for you then psh.

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Re: Is it possible to overuse samples?

Post by nylle » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:15 am

paravrais wrote:If all your gonna do is put in someone else's drum loop and effects and all your gonna do is play a bassline over the top then why not just use dance ejay or something...

Using samples is fine if you do it creatively but if you just want someone else to make your track for you then psh.
i find it hard to use other people's drum loops

i have so much fun making my own loops and eqing everything just how i want it and being able to arrange it however i want

just seems lazy if u dont even alter it to not make ti sound like the original
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Re: Is it possible to overuse samples?

Post by krispy » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:26 am

its better to separate kicks and snares out of the drum loops
that way you can do different things to them
eq, effects, compression in different ways

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Re: Is it possible to overuse samples?

Post by LetsGoBlues91 » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:39 am

i didn't know I could take out the drum sounds out of the sample. That's perfect. beats the heck out of using the sample normally.

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Re: Is it possible to overuse samples?

Post by -[2]DAY_- » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:58 pm

open it with a slicer like recycle, then you can set your own markers to slice the loop. each and every hit, or a few beats or a whole measure, it is up to you. Then you can re-sequence the loop, you could remove the kick and snare hits and replace them with more subtle parts of the loop (i.e. a lone hi-hat)... Or you could high pass the loop so none of the meat and bottom of those hits is coming through then layer with your own hits....

Interesting when you send bits of a break to reverbs/delays and layer with dryer drums, then bus all that together throw a compressor on it, u be sounding good....
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