Using a VST amp as a preamp for timecodes

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Using a VST amp as a preamp for timecodes

Post by Rapsak » Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:51 pm

Is this at all possible?

I've got a budget timecode setup using an american audio versaport, and it works fine but the output volume is significantly lower than if im using standard vinyl, so reckon i need some kind of preamp.

I don't know much about vst's, but would it be possible to somehow use a vst pre amp from virtual dj to the versaport or am i being an idiot?

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Re: Using a VST amp as a preamp for timecodes

Post by daft cunt » Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:18 pm

I can't remember why but it's normal that digital files are quieter than vinyls.

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Re: Using a VST amp as a preamp for timecodes

Post by staticcast » Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:23 pm

What exactly is quiet? The audio output from your DJ software or the timecode input?

If it's the latter, just turn it up. Don't run it through a guitar amp simulator!
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Re: Using a VST amp as a preamp for timecodes

Post by Rapsak » Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:11 am

static_cast wrote:What exactly is quiet? The audio output from your DJ software or the timecode input?

If it's the latter, just turn it up. Don't run it through a guitar amp simulator!
yeah its the latter, only problem is i have to turn the side playing vinyl right down as well cos the gain on the timecode side maxes out before it's loud enough.
and when i turn up the gain on the internal virtual dj ui, it just starts clipping and distorting straight away.
sounds like vst's aren't an option though.
any other ideas?

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Re: Using a VST amp as a preamp for timecodes

Post by staticcast » Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:20 am

What timecode are you using?
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Re: Using a VST amp as a preamp for timecodes

Post by Rapsak » Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:59 am

serato scratch vinyl

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Re: Using a VST amp as a preamp for timecodes

Post by staticcast » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:13 am

Rapsak wrote:serato scratch vinyl
I don't really understand what the problem is if timecode control of virtual DJ works fine.

Do you mean "the track coming from virtual DJ is really quiet, whereas tracks directly from vinyl are really loud"?
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Re: Using a VST amp as a preamp for timecodes

Post by Depone » Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:59 pm

Check the back of your Mixer, it is on 'Line' or 'phono' It should be on Line.

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Re: Using a VST amp as a preamp for timecodes

Post by Spirez » Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:02 pm

It'll be the output level from whatever interface you're using. The Rane SL3 is the closest I've tried to the volume output of vinyl.

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Re: Using a VST amp as a preamp for timecodes

Post by antics » Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:29 pm

The problem sounds like its with the output, not with the file that's being outputted. VSTs won't help, as you will only be increasing the volume of the file being outputted, which will again lead to limiting and distorting.

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