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Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Post by Dystinkt » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:01 am

I make a tune on my DAW, the mixdown sounds punchy and just right, rendered it and it still sounds the bollocks, upload to soundcload and bam it sounds shit. Why does this happen?

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Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Post by filthy_ » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:02 am

did you turn normalize off?
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Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Post by Recessive Trait » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:23 am

there's no sub bass.

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Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Post by bubblypatrick » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:38 am

on one of my tracks I fixed it by using a 90000+ sample rate instead of 48000, shitty, but it fixed my bass which was having similar problems
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Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Post by +verb » Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:25 pm

its just the shit transcoding that soundcloud uses.
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Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Post by harveykartel » Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:53 pm

Anytime Soundcloud has messed up one of my uploads, it seems to be a bit depth/sample rate issue.
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Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Post by Depone » Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:13 pm

If you upload a .wav or high quality mp3, sound cloud still had to transcode it to a 128mp3 quality stream. So.. If you want to get maximum quality, make your own decent sounding 128mp3 and upload that...

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Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Post by deadly_habit » Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:29 pm

why have i never had this issue...

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Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Post by Echoi » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:05 pm

+verb wrote:its just the shit transcoding that soundcloud uses.
Is it though?

Some peoples tracks sound perfect, others it sounds like the highs and snares are breaking up. A common problem with my uploads.

My sig track is the best upload ive had from soundcloud, sounds almost exactly how it does when i play back the mp3.

But my next track i upped sounds like turd.
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Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Post by gnome » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:12 pm

Echoi wrote:
+verb wrote:its just the shit transcoding that soundcloud uses.
Is it though?

Some peoples tracks sound perfect, others it sounds like the highs and snares are breaking up.
I get this all the time. All my snares sound rubbish because of it!

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Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Post by phrex » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:14 pm

deadly habit wrote:why have i never had this issue...
same here
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Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Post by Echoi » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:15 pm

gnome wrote:
Echoi wrote:
+verb wrote:its just the shit transcoding that soundcloud uses.
Is it though?

Some peoples tracks sound perfect, others it sounds like the highs and snares are breaking up.
I get this all the time. All my snares sound rubbish because of it!
Yup, tell me about it. Hats too, hats seem to have the same problem as some snares on peoples work.

Im quite sure it has nothing to do with clipping on mine.

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Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Post by staticcast » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:52 pm

Depone wrote:If you upload a .wav or high quality mp3, sound cloud still had to transcode it to a 128mp3 quality stream. So.. If you want to get maximum quality, make your own decent sounding 128mp3 and upload that...
Are you sure that 128k mp3s don't just get transcoded again?

I'm not familiar with exactly what "transcoding" entails (or if it's actually a standard process) but it seems feasible to me that it might just involve decoding to WAV and encoding again to whatever format they like. If that's the case, then 128->128 transcoding would still be pretty damaging.
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Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Post by paravrais » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:34 pm

deadly habit wrote:why have i never had this issue...

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Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Post by Biscuit » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:38 am

I've had similar problems too with some bass and things sounding like ass after I upload.
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Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Post by Debaser1 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:36 pm

I used to get this problem, but ever since reading the 'moneyshot' gain structure thread, it's been less evident. If your output volume of the track is too high then soundcloud simply can't cope. Just a matter of turning stuff down and it worked for me. I'm not saying I'm presenting the definitive solution here, but it helped.
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Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Post by nowaysj » Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:55 am

Totally have this problem. I've uploaded wav's, mp3, nothing I've uploaded sounds like it does here. No clue what it is about, I gave up on trying to figure this one out. Maybe you've got to pay to have your tracks sound okay?
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Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Post by vazt » Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:41 am

This has happened to me a few times. I noticed things I side chained sound fucked up on soundcloud. Sounds perfect in the wav and or mp3. Really annoying.

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Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Post by OlzaMK » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:12 am

It's because your mixdown is piss
This. I basically hate anything with that "brutal electro" sound; it sounds all like HUGLAGHALGHALGHAL

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Re: Why does Soundcloud ruin my upload?

Post by makemerich » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:38 am

psychoacoustics and lossy compression
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