Spice

[gnome]

dont get it. it sounds like it just makes you pass out. id much rather bun while im conscious.

Naw you pass out for 5-10 seconds but wake up with a ridiculous euphoria for a good ten seconds if you do it right. Like a real short e trip or something.

no you dont lol i jus tried it n i just feel more high, but thats what weed is sposed to do?

Then youre doin it wrong my good sir.

1. squat on the balls of your feet with your knees tucked into your chest tightly and your head hanging
2. take 20-30 deep rapid breaths until you start to get lightheaded
3. breathe out fully, then take a bong rip
4.take the biggest hit you can
5. hold it, make sure not to breathe in or out, and stand up as quick as you can
6. stick your thumb in your mouth and blow on it as hard as you can without exhaling any
7. when you start to get light headed, let the hit out and look for a soft place to fall

again I dont know what this does to your brain long term, but if its anything like i suspect it to be, its just short term oxygen deprivation, which doesnt cause brain damage when kept in a reasonable amount of time.

Back in school we used to do a revised version of this. We called it the "American dream" It went like this.

1. Person breathes rapidly until out of breathe
2. 0ne or more people push the person against the wall and push against their chest. This causes them to pass out.

I remember watching this being done and watching as nobody tried to grab the passed out idiot as he plummeted towards the ground face first. Obviously the guy looked like shit afterwards.

[NW_DUBAHOLIC]

do you guys not realize they're sold as incense which say "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION" on them. Meaning that none of the ingredients are regulated by the FDA so they can put just about whatever they want in them. Why would you ever smoke that shit? I smoke weed everyday but even if I got drug tested I would never touch that shit. I would much rather be sober than get cancer or some other shit in 30-40 years.

That doesn't fucking mean its full of carcinogens or anything but jwh and parsley. Man I hate you tin foil hat motherfuckers. Yes some blends do taste a bit bitter, yes the smoke can be harsh, no that does not mean it will give you cancer.

Do you really know whats in it though? They aren't required to post the ingredients because it's not meant for human consumption. You have no Idea what could be in that.

[rytraM]

The chemical is JWH-018, developed by a scientist in the 90's as a synthetic cannabanoid. Basically this stuff is synthetic weed, I've smoked it alot and its in such concentration that you only need to take 1 or 2 hits to feel the effects. I've takenn 6 or 7 hits before, and its basically MDMA and LSD packed into a 2 hour or so time span. On the big smoke times I usually peaked 45 mins or so after smoking, and then was really tired for another hour or so while the effects wore off. I did it before school, peaked on the bus, don't remember what happened for the next 3 hours but my friends said I passed out through all of 2nd bell, about 50 minutes. Smoked 2 hits while on acid, trippiest experience of my life. I wouldn't mess with this stuff unless you can control yourself and make sure you're safe, because the smallest thing can freak you out and it goes badly after that.

[borrowed]

do you guys not realize they're sold as incense which say "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION" on them. Meaning that none of the ingredients are regulated by the FDA so they can put just about whatever they want in them. Why would you ever smoke that shit? I smoke weed everyday but even if I got drug tested I would never touch that shit. I would much rather be sober than get cancer or some other shit in 30-40 years.

That doesn't fucking mean its full of carcinogens or anything but jwh and parsley. Man I hate you tin foil hat motherfuckers. Yes some blends do taste a bit bitter, yes the smoke can be harsh, no that does not mean it will give you cancer.

Do you really know whats in it though? They aren't required to post the ingredients because it's not meant for human consumption. You have no Idea what could be in that.

You don't know whats underneath you when you swim in the ocean either, but that doesn't stop you, does it? Plus, the JWH compounds themselves are benign in toxicity and aren't likely to be carcinogens. Plus most of these things are made in some dudes garage in Wichita, and I doubt he's going to go out of his way to put nasty chems in it that could hurt people, just because its not regulated.

[MikeE]

now whats underneath you when you swim in the ocean either, but that doesn't stop you, does it? Plus, the JWH compounds themselves are benign in toxicity and aren't likely to be carcinogens. Plus most of these things are made in some dudes garage in Wichita, and I doubt he's going to go out of his way to put nasty chems in it that could hurt people, just because its not regulated.

Actually, most are made in some dudes garage in browns bay, auckland NZ... only because spice is a mates product and I ended up recruiting a bunch of people to pack the shit last year lol

[borrowed]

now whats underneath you when you swim in the ocean either, but that doesn't stop you, does it? Plus, the JWH compounds themselves are benign in toxicity and aren't likely to be carcinogens. Plus most of these things are made in some dudes garage in Wichita, and I doubt he's going to go out of his way to put nasty chems in it that could hurt people, just because its not regulated.

Actually, most are made in some dudes garage in browns bay, auckland NZ... only because spice is a mates product and I ended up recruiting a bunch of people to pack the shit last year lol

Well the shit I'm smoking isnt spice, its just most commonly known as spice or k2. I was making a joke about some dude's garage, since none of the stuff seems to be very well made.

[MikeE]

whoops, got mixed up with Aroma



used to get so much of that shit for free, and cookies with the straight active ingredients etc. Was a pretty lol summer when they were all working there packing it.

spice is another one, but also NZ based.

[crackf]

ive also noticed that almost every "spice" advertiser advertises their product with women lol

not that im complaining!

[pikeymobile]

do you guys not realize they're sold as incense which say "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION" on them. Meaning that none of the ingredients are regulated by the FDA so they can put just about whatever they want in them. Why would you ever smoke that shit? I smoke weed everyday but even if I got drug tested I would never touch that shit. I would much rather be sober than get cancer or some other shit in 30-40 years.

That doesn't fucking mean its full of carcinogens or anything but jwh and parsley. Man I hate you tin foil hat motherfuckers. Yes some blends do taste a bit bitter, yes the smoke can be harsh, no that does not mean it will give you cancer.

Do you really know whats in it though? They aren't required to post the ingredients because it's not meant for human consumption. You have no Idea what could be in that.

These drugs are made by chemists, not kids in their kitchens. Their legal, so are all the products used to synthesise them, so they can make the drug to a high purity (>99%)
If they put other compounds in the drugs which killed you, it'd lead to bad press, and the company could be shut down.
It's the reason that there's almost no RC opiates. Because of how addictive and damaging they can be, they're not made because they bring bad press and attention to the chemists. Why would manufacturers wan't to kill customers?

[NW_DUBAHOLIC]

have you not heard about all the people who've been hospitilized? why do you think it's becoming illegal? and to the guy who said you don't know everything thats under the ocean, im not smoking anything in the ocean haha. go ahead and have fun smoking your synthetic chemicals i'll stick with weed haha. i can't believe nobody see's where im coming from. maybe the spice has fucked with your brain already haha

[borrowed]

have you not heard about all the people who've been hospitilized? why do you think it's becoming illegal? and to the guy who said you don't know everything thats under the ocean, im not smoking anything in the ocean haha. go ahead and have fun smoking your synthetic chemicals i'll stick with weed haha. i can't believe nobody see's where im coming from. maybe the spice has fucked with your brain already haha

Every single person who has been hospitalized has been hospitalized for vomiting and paranoia, otherwise known as a bad trip. No permanent damage or deaths have happened, iirc. Also, stop with this "synthetic chemicals" bullshit. Just because something is synthesized in a lab does not make it more dangerous or inherently bad for your body.

I get it, you don't like spice. thats awesome. But don't try to play it off like you have some kind of scientific evidence behind your claim.

[NW_DUBAHOLIC]

My whole point is that there is no scientific evidence. I'm calling it exactly what it is. A synthetic chemical. There was no opinion in that statement. It is a chemical sythesized in a lab as you said. There is no studies on long term effects because it is not regulated by the FDA or anyone else. I'm all for having fun but I try and stick to stuff that I know what effect it will have on me down the road.

[jameshk]

Whats wrong with a synthetic chemical being a drug? Alright, let me just go to my MDMA tree and pick a few grams.

[FSTZ]

dont get it. it sounds like it just makes you pass out. id much rather bun while im conscious.

Naw you pass out for 5-10 seconds but wake up with a ridiculous euphoria for a good ten seconds if you do it right. Like a real short e trip or something.

sounds like what happens when I hit the vape just right

like n2o almost

[FSTZ]

Horrible shit. Buy real drugs.

my exact feeling about analogs

[Sirius]

yeah I dont mind the "purple haze" bags we have here. mix it with weed & it hits way more spots than either hit.

only prob i have with it is the dryness & lack of taste. does the trick tho,
& people who get drug tested for work are able to get high.

it may even help marijuana law reform!!

!!chea

[borrowed]

My whole point is that there is no scientific evidence. I'm calling it exactly what it is. A synthetic chemical. There was no opinion in that statement. It is a chemical sythesized in a lab as you said. There is no studies on long term effects because it is not regulated by the FDA or anyone else. I'm all for having fun but I try and stick to stuff that I know what effect it will have on me down the road.

Bullshit someone else. If you want to act like you're overly cautious about everything that comes into contact with you and pretend to know every long term case study about everything you take, go for it.

[NW_DUBAHOLIC]

your getting pretty heated man . must be all that JWH

[pikeymobile]

have you not heard about all the people who've been hospitilized? why do you think it's becoming illegal? and to the guy who said you don't know everything thats under the ocean, im not smoking anything in the ocean haha. go ahead and have fun smoking your synthetic chemicals i'll stick with weed haha. i can't believe nobody see's where im coming from. maybe the spice has fucked with your brain already haha

I wasn't defending 'spice' or any of the other JWH chemicals, I think they're all pretty waste, I was defending your claim of "they can put just about whatever they want in them"
When you're buying from a head shop, or a truster supplier, you get exactly what you're buying to a very high purity (especially when it's legal).

[topmo3]

stop doing drugs. they can really fuck u up. any kind of em. trust

yo once i did drug

what's with the attitude? it's so easy to do all that sarcastic contemptous been there done that-shit online. i didn't mean like that. i'm a bit overwhelmed by the open-mindness of this forum. some of you people are practically advertising drugs. i havent read such forward and non-discreet conversation about illegal substances on even on a forum about drugs. it's just a bit bedazzling. but no hard feelings carry on