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Re: Arizona Congresswoman shot in Tuscon

Post by deadly_habit » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:16 am

dubmatters wrote:
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it's so ridiculous because most of the stuff that nutter was ranting about is exactly the type of stuff you hear on Fox news
The extreme rhetoric that comes out of american polititians/pundits mouths is quite frightening. I imagine some people are easily influenced by such inciteful commentary.
what's scary is that people think of these opinion shows as actual news and the sway that people like say glenn beck, bill oreilly, rush limbaugh, ann coulter etc who toss about hate speech, thinly veiled racism (or just blatent sometimes) are almost a sort of celebrity status among their fans who often see them as doing no wrong. hell my dad is one of them and it's like talking to a brick wall when it comes to talking about any issues they cover, and he's just like a tape recorder spewing back the same crap they say.
heaven forbid a NEWS channel actually presents unbiased facts and news and leaves it up to the viewer to form their own opinions, rather than hours of opinion and commentary shows to the public

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Re: Arizona Congresswoman shot in Tuscon

Post by dubmatters » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:44 am

deadly habit wrote:
dubmatters wrote:
Phigure wrote:
it's so ridiculous because most of the stuff that nutter was ranting about is exactly the type of stuff you hear on Fox news
The extreme rhetoric that comes out of american polititians/pundits mouths is quite frightening. I imagine some people are easily influenced by such inciteful commentary.
what's scary is that people think of these opinion shows as actual news and the sway that people like say glenn beck, bill oreilly, rush limbaugh, ann coulter etc who toss about hate speech, thinly veiled racism (or just blatent sometimes) are almost a sort of celebrity status among their fans who often see them as doing no wrong. hell my dad is one of them and it's like talking to a brick wall when it comes to talking about any issues they cover, and he's just like a tape recorder spewing back the same crap they say.
heaven forbid a NEWS channel actually presents unbiased facts and news and leaves it up to the viewer to form their own opinions, rather than hours of opinion and commentary shows to the public
My god that rush limbaugh is a bell end

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Re: Arizona Congresswoman shot in Tuscon

Post by deadly_habit » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:53 am

no one wants to take personal responsibility for what they say or their actions anymore, that's one of the root causes to problems in america

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Re: Arizona Congresswoman shot in Tuscon

Post by Ayatollah » Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:21 am

pkay wrote: Keep it trill DSF. You don't need a reason to hate Palin, just don't use this ladies unfortunate situation to try and blindly turn this about guns and palin when gifford took part in shit like that
This woman's personal beliefs and practices when it comes to gun policy has nothing to do with the discussion regarding guns. It could have been Michael Moore or Sarah Palin and it would (or should) still warrant this same discussion.

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Re: Arizona Congresswoman shot in Tuscon

Post by pkay » Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:19 am

Ayatollah wrote:
pkay wrote: Keep it trill DSF. You don't need a reason to hate Palin, just don't use this ladies unfortunate situation to try and blindly turn this about guns and palin when gifford took part in shit like that
This woman's personal beliefs and practices when it comes to gun policy has nothing to do with the discussion regarding guns. It could have been Michael Moore or Sarah Palin and it would (or should) still warrant this same discussion.

Cool, keith olbermann's blog had a similar cross hairs map on his website.... so discuss how olbermann is responsible for this lady getting shot

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Re: Arizona Congresswoman shot in Tuscon

Post by deadly_habit » Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:29 am

they're both irresponsible twats

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Re: Arizona Congresswoman shot in Tuscon

Post by deadly_habit » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:04 am

the extremes of both sides of the spectrum are idiots and full of batshit crazy people

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Re: Arizona Congresswoman shot in Tuscon

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Re: Arizona Congresswoman shot in Tuscon

Post by Ayatollah » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:04 pm

deadly habit wrote:the extremes of both sides of the spectrum are idiots and full of batshit crazy people
this does seem to be the case...

for an outsider, american politics seem ridiculously polarized. what makes it extra weird is that these extremes rally around parties that are so close on the politial spectrum.

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Re: Arizona Congresswoman shot in Tuscon

Post by Ayatollah » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:11 pm

pkay wrote:
Ayatollah wrote:
pkay wrote: Keep it trill DSF. You don't need a reason to hate Palin, just don't use this ladies unfortunate situation to try and blindly turn this about guns and palin when gifford took part in shit like that
This woman's personal beliefs and practices when it comes to gun policy has nothing to do with the discussion regarding guns. It could have been Michael Moore or Sarah Palin and it would (or should) still warrant this same discussion.

Cool, keith olbermann's blog had a similar cross hairs map on his website.... so discuss how olbermann is responsible for this lady getting shot
what... I never even mentioned Palin or the crosshairs, are you assuming that I blame Palin for this happening because of my stance on gun control? :|

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Re: Arizona Congresswoman shot in Tuscon

Post by hugh » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:39 pm

Ayatollah wrote:
deadly habit wrote:the extremes of both sides of the spectrum are idiots and full of batshit crazy people
this does seem to be the case...

for an outsider, american politics seem ridiculously polarized. what makes it extra weird is that these extremes rally around parties that are so close on the politial spectrum.
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Re: Arizona Congresswoman shot in Tuscon

Post by Badman Juice » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:46 pm

wonder how long it'll be till bill o'reilly starts shooting people.
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Re: Arizona Congresswoman shot in Tuscon

Post by capo ultra » Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:49 pm

"The guy listened to heavy metal, and some of that anarchist stuff. We're dealing with an insane individual."

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Re: Arizona Congresswoman shot in Tuscon

Post by frank grimes jr. » Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:50 pm

pkay wrote:
AllNightDayDream wrote:Yeah she was actually pro-guns. Strange this happened to her of all people because apparently she was a much more moderate liberal

Regardless there's little doubt in my mind that the fear-mongering from the right media contributed to this. Will this change anything? Sadly, probably not.

I think it had more to do with the guy being certifiable, but that's just me.
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Re: Arizona Congresswoman shot in Tuscon

Post by badger » Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:53 pm

capo ultra wrote:"The guy listened to heavy metal, and some of that anarchist stuff. We're dealing with an insane individual."

:cornlol: :cornlol: :cornlol:
was just going to post that quote. as much as i dislike heavy metal that's quite a leap he made there :lol:

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Re: Arizona Congresswoman shot in Tuscon

Post by pkay » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:30 pm

Ayatollah wrote:
pkay wrote:
Ayatollah wrote:
pkay wrote: Keep it trill DSF. You don't need a reason to hate Palin, just don't use this ladies unfortunate situation to try and blindly turn this about guns and palin when gifford took part in shit like that
This woman's personal beliefs and practices when it comes to gun policy has nothing to do with the discussion regarding guns. It could have been Michael Moore or Sarah Palin and it would (or should) still warrant this same discussion.

Cool, keith olbermann's blog had a similar cross hairs map on his website.... so discuss how olbermann is responsible for this lady getting shot
what... I never even mentioned Palin or the crosshairs, are you assuming that I blame Palin for this happening because of my stance on gun control? :|
Did you happen to read the post you quoted?

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Re: Arizona Congresswoman shot in Tuscon

Post by Phigure » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:33 pm

pkay wrote:
Ayatollah wrote:
pkay wrote:
Ayatollah wrote:
pkay wrote: Keep it trill DSF. You don't need a reason to hate Palin, just don't use this ladies unfortunate situation to try and blindly turn this about guns and palin when gifford took part in shit like that
This woman's personal beliefs and practices when it comes to gun policy has nothing to do with the discussion regarding guns. It could have been Michael Moore or Sarah Palin and it would (or should) still warrant this same discussion.

Cool, keith olbermann's blog had a similar cross hairs map on his website.... so discuss how olbermann is responsible for this lady getting shot
what... I never even mentioned Palin or the crosshairs, are you assuming that I blame Palin for this happening because of my stance on gun control? :|
Did you happen to read the post you quoted?
He was referring to the picture of Giffords with the gun
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Re: Arizona Congresswoman shot in Tuscon

Post by dubmatters » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:22 pm

http://www.publicintegrity.org/articles/entry/2815/
Two years before the Tucson massacre, the Department of Homeland Security warned in a report that right wing extremism was on the rise and could prompt "lone wolves" to launch attacks. But the agency backed away from the report amid intense criticism from Republicans, including future House Speaker John Boehner.

The report, which warned that the crippled economy and the election of the first black president were “unique drivers for rightwing radicalization and recruitment,” described the rise of “lone wolves and small terrorist cells embracing violent rightwing extremist ideology [as] the most dangerous domestic terrorism threat in the United States.”
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