LA beatmaker production techniques

[Ldizzy]

yo etches i love ur stuff!! bigupz

[Etches828]

yo etches i love ur stuff!! bigupz

Safe man, means a lot!

[Mushroom Buttons]

Some great videos related to the scene

[Ldizzy]

cool vids!!

[Ldizzy]

i like how everybody wubbs up the juno ahahh

[Mushroom Buttons]

This thread needs a bump, just for the hell of it.

[wub]

So does this;

Flying Lotus Thread - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=172592

[Mushroom Buttons]

Speaking of which, would love to know more about the beat scene's extreme usage of side chain compression.



For example, how was the 808 on this beat processed? It's punchy but not hard/distorted and it doesn't decay immediately. I'd imagine the waveform to look onion-shaped rather than the usual cone shape. Is this just the effect of side chain pumping alone?

[Ldizzy]

^ it sounds like its compressed a lot.. on its own.. that, im pretty sure...

then it triggers compressors for other sounds... eg the hihats..

then its compressed itself by another signal... i hear it ducking a bit when the snap/clap comes in... and my ears are too broken to tell me what happens when everything comes in at the same time... but it doesnt kill the 808s... it still comes thru ...

it starts to get complicated when u mess with compression only with a certain range of frequencies and stuff..

im not sure .. i have heavy tinnitus ...

with those beats the name of the game is experimentation tho...

[rx]

Hey everyone,

Dubspot just released a new production video. Our very own Pat Cupo deconstructs Flying Lotus' song "Camel" and shows you how he developed the beat. Take a look for yourself, and let us know what you think!

[rx]

Hey everyone,

Over at Dubspot we just released a video on how to use a Limiter using Ozone 4. This is a universal VST that can be used in any host application--Ableton, Reason, Cubase, Logic etc.--and can take your tracks to a commercial volume. Let us know what you think! And if you have any questions, we'll be happy to answer them.

[rx]

Andddd another one this week! This time it's from Heinrich Zwahlen, our sound design and synthesis instructor here at Dubspot. He explores a new technique in Absynth utilizing its Aetherizer feature, which you can create original ambient, harmonic pad sounds from grain delay noise. Go crazy with this! If you make any tracks using this technique, let us know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzFt_pi2Lbo

[legend4ry]

I have nothing important to say ... Just that the groove on this one is sooooooooooooo sexy.

[dddemain]

Speaking of which, would love to know more about the beat scene's extreme usage of side chain compression.



For example, how was the 808 on this beat processed? It's punchy but not hard/distorted and it doesn't decay immediately. I'd imagine the waveform to look onion-shaped rather than the usual cone shape. Is this just the effect of side chain pumping alone?

Maybe sidechain the 808 to itself. People who make Dirty south do this quite often, and it sounds a bit like this.

[Ldizzy]

hehe... originator

hardly beaten on the subject of offbeat swing...

[skimpi]

Speaking of which, would love to know more about the beat scene's extreme usage of side chain compression.



For example, how was the 808 on this beat processed? It's punchy but not hard/distorted and it doesn't decay immediately. I'd imagine the waveform to look onion-shaped rather than the usual cone shape. Is this just the effect of side chain pumping alone?

Maybe sidechain the 808 to itself. People who make Dirty south do this quite often, and it sounds a bit like this.

wouldnt sidechaining the 808 to itself just be normal compression? seen as sidechaining is when you trigger an insert such as compression with the signal from elsewhere, so if using compression as the example still, if you sidechained the 808 to itself, then the 808 would be triggering the compression acting on itself, which is just like using the compressor?

[Mushroom Buttons]

I have nothing important to say ... Just that the groove on this one is sooooooooooooo sexy.

Word. More sexy grooves from the man

[Mushroom Buttons]

Speaking of which, would love to know more about the beat scene's extreme usage of side chain compression.



For example, how was the 808 on this beat processed? It's punchy but not hard/distorted and it doesn't decay immediately. I'd imagine the waveform to look onion-shaped rather than the usual cone shape. Is this just the effect of side chain pumping alone?

Maybe sidechain the 808 to itself. People who make Dirty south do this quite often, and it sounds a bit like this.

Hah! I actually tried this, but with the sidechain source running slightly later. It kinda lower the tail of the 808 and make the attack stick out. But what's your technique like?

[nowaysj]

Forget the 808. Just think about it as a sine sub, then work the adsr until you get it right. Draw your midi notes, make them as long as you need, and get the release just right.

Also, more in general. Don't feel the need to do everything automatically, like with side chaining. If you like that extreme effect, think about getting out the old trusty automation and really get into it. Just because a couple of years ago someone said flylo sidechains, doesn't mean that is the only way to achieve your results.

Like the above question about the end of the 808 tone. Why does it need to be sidechaining? It could easily be release, in a synth or a sampler, or it could be volume or filter automation.

If you find a way of making a sound that you like, dope, great, use it, but keep going, keep finding new ways to do it. Everything all together will give more techniques to create "your" sound.

[Mushroom Buttons]

Definitely tried that sine technique too. I agree with what you said for sure.

Ps: Lol at the Not Selling SP404! Hahah. That's a keeper for sure.