Why Do Dubstep Fans Hate Mainstream so Much?

[TSH-Tim]

Kind of lol dry hired some kit to a load of swingers at there house

[trapeez]

so the level of sub bass in a song determines wether it's brostep or not?

Would I rather bump bruno mars over Datsik? Of course not, Im not a faggat.

...you guys have some form of hatred towards industrial...? I've heard that track dropped in the middle of a number of dubstep sets and the place blew to pieces literally

dude i've pressed up over 2,500 dubstep cd's full color with cover with tracks from datsik, chasing shadows, stenchman, myself, nero among others and given them all out for FREE. I've spent well over a grand in going to underground dubstep parties supporting by buying drinks, paying to get in and bringing my friends who had never heard of the shit. what in the FUCK have you done for dubstep other then make tracks in your room and pitch your "dubstep" songs to labels????????????????????????????????????

It's like many of you frown upon any type of progressive evolution your precious dub step is going through.

[Garden]

Coming from someone who got into dubstep via elitism, brostep deserves so much more credit than it's given.

[fractal]

please explain elitism in dubstep context

it's one of those words, like "hater", that gets pandered around a lot around here

[Garden]

I was 'brought up' hating on any dubstep which uses crazy robot sounds or shit like that. Pretty much most wobble that isn't subbass. Hating on midrange, shit like that, Circus, Rottun, Dubpolice. But honestly once I got enough exposure to shit like that you find stuff that's quality even though it's fucking ridiculous and different than the 'elitist' praised artists. I should probly give some examples of what I mean by 'elitist': Zomby, DM, iTAL tEK, Shackleton, Ramadanman, Untold, Burial, Martyn, Mount Kimbie, James blake blah blha blah. Certainly no Caspa or Rusko.

[fractal]

So if I like those artists I'm elitist? What a weird way to look at life

When you say you were brought up to hate stuff, may I ask by whom?

Is someone elitist if they don't like country music, or is it ok to have different tastes without being labeled as such? Hmmmm

[garethom]

I was 'brought up' hating on any dubstep which uses crazy robot sounds or shit like that. Pretty much most wobble that isn't subbass. Hating on midrange, shit like that, Circus, Rottun, Dubpolice. But honestly once I got enough exposure to shit like that you find stuff that's quality even though it's fucking ridiculous and different than the 'elitist' praised artists. I should probly give some examples of what I mean by 'elitist': Zomby, DM, iTAL tEK, Shackleton, Ramadanman, Untold, Burial, Martyn, Mount Kimbie, James blake blah blha blah. Certainly no Caspa or Rusko.

This is the thing that pisses me off. I listen to "Zomby, DM, iTAL tEK, Shackleton, Ramadanman, Untold, Burial, Martyn, Mount Kimbie, James blake" because I like them. I don't listen to the Circus/Dubpolice crew, because I haven't heard anything I like.

What do you want? For me to listen to stuff that I don't like to please you, which was the OP's issue in the first place, or listen to the stuff that I do like, regardless of who makes it?

WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME?

[bagelator]

I was 'brought up' hating on any dubstep which uses crazy robot sounds or shit like that. Pretty much most wobble that isn't subbass. Hating on midrange, shit like that, Circus, Rottun, Dubpolice. But honestly once I got enough exposure to shit like that you find stuff that's quality even though it's fucking ridiculous and different than the 'elitist' praised artists. I should probly give some examples of what I mean by 'elitist': Zomby, DM, iTAL tEK, Shackleton, Ramadanman, Untold, Burial, Martyn, Mount Kimbie, James blake blah blha blah. Certainly no Caspa or Rusko.

SO, by your logic, if tracks have musical qualities that make you want to listen to them at times other than when you have your shirt off with you drunk bros and you're about to vomit your own pelvis out of your eye BECUZZ DIS CHOONZ IZ SICKER DAN A GRANS MINGE BLAAADDD 1111111111 they are elitist?

Are you mad? I think you are mad. MAD MAD MAD MAD.

[LA_Boxers]

so the level of sub bass in a song determines wether it's brostep or not?

Would I rather bump bruno mars over Datsik? Of course not, Im not a faggat.

...you guys have some form of hatred towards industrial...? I've heard that track dropped in the middle of a number of dubstep sets and the place blew to pieces literally

dude i've pressed up over 2,500 dubstep cd's full color with cover with tracks from datsik, chasing shadows, stenchman, myself, nero among others and given them all out for FREE. I've spent well over a grand in going to underground dubstep parties supporting by buying drinks, paying to get in and bringing my friends who had never heard of the shit. what in the FUCK have you done for dubstep other then make tracks in your room and pitch your "dubstep" songs to labels????????????????????????????????????

It's like many of you frown upon any type of progressive evolution your precious dub step is going through.

This.

I was 'brought up' hating on any dubstep which uses crazy robot sounds or shit like that. Pretty much most wobble that isn't subbass. Hating on midrange, shit like that, Circus, Rottun, Dubpolice. But honestly once I got enough exposure to shit like that you find stuff that's quality even though it's fucking ridiculous and different than the 'elitist' praised artists. I should probly give some examples of what I mean by 'elitist': Zomby, DM, iTAL tEK, Shackleton, Ramadanman, Untold, Burial, Martyn, Mount Kimbie, James blake blah blha blah. Certainly no Caspa or Rusko.

SO, by your logic, if tracks have musical qualities that make you want to listen to them at times other than when you have your shirt off with you drunk bros and you're about to vomit your own pelvis out of your eye BECUZZ DIS CHOONZ IZ SICKER DAN A GRANS MINGE BLAAADDD 1111111111 they are elitist?

Are you mad? I think you are mad. MAD MAD MAD MAD.

Also this.

ARE YOU MAD IN THE FACE???

[bagelator]

so the level of sub bass in a song determines wether it's brostep or not?

Would I rather bump bruno mars over Datsik? Of course not, Im not a faggat.

...you guys have some form of hatred towards industrial...? I've heard that track dropped in the middle of a number of dubstep sets and the place blew to pieces literally

dude i've pressed up over 2,500 dubstep cd's full color with cover with tracks from datsik, chasing shadows, stenchman, myself, nero among others and given them all out for FREE. I've spent well over a grand in going to underground dubstep parties supporting by buying drinks, paying to get in and bringing my friends who had never heard of the shit. what in the FUCK have you done for dubstep other then make tracks in your room and pitch your "dubstep" songs to labels????????????????????????????????????

It's like many of you frown upon any type of progressive evolution your precious dub step is going through.

This.

I was 'brought up' hating on any dubstep which uses crazy robot sounds or shit like that. Pretty much most wobble that isn't subbass. Hating on midrange, shit like that, Circus, Rottun, Dubpolice. But honestly once I got enough exposure to shit like that you find stuff that's quality even though it's fucking ridiculous and different than the 'elitist' praised artists. I should probly give some examples of what I mean by 'elitist': Zomby, DM, iTAL tEK, Shackleton, Ramadanman, Untold, Burial, Martyn, Mount Kimbie, James blake blah blha blah. Certainly no Caspa or Rusko.

SO, by your logic, if tracks have musical qualities that make you want to listen to them at times other than when you have your shirt off with you drunk bros and you're about to vomit your own pelvis out of your eye BECUZZ DIS CHOONZ IZ SICKER DAN A GRANS MINGE BLAAADDD 1111111111 they are elitist?

Are you mad? I think you are mad. MAD MAD MAD MAD.

Also this.

ARE YOU MAD IN THE FACE???

GO ON THEN

[nousd]

anyone dj at a strip club?

no but i noticed an old bloke having his head massaged by a young lady's norks
in a pub the other night
ds weren't playing but...just generic doof

otherwise:
Skully came up with the term proppa dubstep
which sounds right to me

proppa dubstep

nomenclature which inhibits the giving of creedence,
on the basis of reactive resistance,
to any attempts at making improppa ds cool

proppa ds:
space, sub & surprises

[bagelator]

anyone dj at a strip club?

mrk1 and virus syndicate

[nousd]

^details?

altho virus syndicate is no surprise

[bagelator]

Sheffield or Leeds..

[Garden]

So if I like those artists I'm elitist? What a weird way to look at life

No, I'm saying in some cases people don't give tearout artists a fair shake and that's elitist. I wouldn't call myself an elitist and I wouldn't call anyone an elitist solely because they like those artists.

This is the thing that pisses me off. I listen to "Zomby, DM, iTAL tEK, Shackleton, Ramadanman, Untold, Burial, Martyn, Mount Kimbie, James blake" because I like them. I don't listen to the Circus/Dubpolice crew, because I haven't heard anything I like.

What do you want? For me to listen to stuff that I don't like to please you, which was the OP's issue in the first place, or listen to the stuff that I do like, regardless of who makes it?

WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME?

Not saying everybody listens to those artists because other people like them and they don't. I wouldn't listen to that stuff if I didn't like it.

SO, by your logic, if tracks have musical qualities that make you want to listen to them at times other than when you have your shirt off with you drunk bros and you're about to vomit your own pelvis out of your eye BECUZZ DIS CHOONZ IZ SICKER DAN A GRANS MINGE BLAAADDD 1111111111 they are elitist?

Are you mad? I think you are mad. MAD MAD MAD MAD.

I didn't say that and I'm not mad, a lot of you are taking this as a personal attack and you shouldn't. I'm not attacking your taste. I'm not a follower of ntype or excision or whatever, don't even have any tearout on my computer.

All I'm saying is blindly dismissing all such artists as crap that takes no skill to make is narrow minded. Their work should get a little more merit from non drunk bros.

[fractal]

But no one is blindy dismissing anything. I've listened, I've given it a chance. I was just bored of that sound in 06 so it's hard to get into it five years down the road. Not a lot of staying power in those tunes imho

[Garden]

Yeah, this is the reason I don't have copies of many of these tracks. But Rottun, for one has been releasing a lot of good, batshit insane dance music and I am not going to dismiss its credibility just because it's not sophisticated enough.

My basic point was that although I got into the genre shunning this stuff, I realized that it isn't so bad.

[DannyLifted]

You're always mainstream in opposition to something more underground aren't you ?

no actually this is whats in my cd player right now...



thats pretty underground. But thats besides the point...

pkay wrote:sad people use their taste in music to define them as a person making them far too personally invested in music made by someone else

it's not cool to be a dubstep fan if everyone is a dubstep fan... if your scene becomes too big you get lost amongst the crowd and those sad people I mention feel like they've lost their identity.

Most rational people understand that mainstream music is mainstream because it strikes certain nerves amongst people and can discern that the dubstep scene and the mainstream dance scene are two entirely different things.

^^^ This is exactly where my head was at when making this thread. Whether YOU feel this way or not, these TYPES of people are common in the dubstep genre. My question, is why?

[garethom]

pkay wrote:sad people use their taste in music to define them as a person making them far too personally invested in music made by someone else

it's not cool to be a dubstep fan if everyone is a dubstep fan... if your scene becomes too big you get lost amongst the crowd and those sad people I mention feel like they've lost their identity.

Most rational people understand that mainstream music is mainstream because it strikes certain nerves amongst people and can discern that the dubstep scene and the mainstream dance scene are two entirely different things.

^^^ This is exactly where my head was at when making this thread. Whether YOU feel this way or not, these TYPES of people are common in the dubstep genre. My question, is why?

You say you agree with pkay that sad people use their taste to define them and there's your answer. They're sad. Why do you care so much about what these people think? Let them "hate" and just continue listening to what you like.

[nousd]

Being cool & sad makes me warm & happy.