Chordboard STAC

[3za]

Discuss

[Ldizzy]

chick is smokin ragin hot.


arms is hairy tho.


How much does it cost?

[3za]

How much does it cost?

$1,295 STAC software only

http://www.chordboard.com/index_files/Page509.htm

[virks]

fucking insne price for chord software...

[-[2]DAY_-]

pianist will be a dying breed.

I hate these types of products. fucking hate them

[Pedro Sánchez]

the productions values on that video put the 80's soft-focus porn flicks to shame.

[skimpi]

that kid still sounds shit! i dont get it, you just bash keys and it sounds good?

[Ldizzy]

pfffff for this kind of shekel...

dude id get a personal piano AND vocal coach and turn myself into prince or some shit...

gots to say the method is pretty inventive tho

[chordboard]

that kid still sounds shit! i dont get it, you just bash keys and it sounds good?

Not exactly, but you are going to get some new and unexpected sounds, and much of it will be harmonic depending on how you play it. I have listened to your song Novavon, and with those sounds you chose, and putting some more harmonics on it, more complex chords, I can hear in my head some really interesting sounds. I really like what you did there.

This is not an "automatic" instrument. You can sound pretty crappy on it if you play it wrong. You can play wrong notes, if you mix chords wrong (that's debateable, because some people like it "wrong" so..) It takes skill to play it. I have been building up some skill on it, and here's a song I did last week and it took about 2 hours to build 18 tracks, and although the mix is rough, its still a demo... it shows what's possible.

Not everyone is going to like it, music is that way, but the Chordboard STAC is a lot of fun and I still use and NEED the piano because it does entirely different things that I still like to hear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpt14YqLJhM

[chordboard]

pianist will be a dying breed.

No, too often this comparison is made. The piano is absolutely relevant, important, great, and will never ever be a dieing breed. iPods and earbuds and mp3's may have dumbed down music for a while, but its all coming back as the technology improves, we will have 24 bit sound again in downloads, and our technology is going to fix this.

No one will EVER play piano except on a piano. There is no shortcut.

This is not dumbing down music. It is letting music be accessed another way. You saw a young 8 yrd old kid play something pretty incredible for only a couple of days worth of time hacking away at it. You can NOT do on a piano what this can do as they are entirely different. Please check out the new vid and new song I made last week. It shows things a little differently.

I often compare what the Chordboard STAC is doing to what the mouse did for the PC. The mouse didn't wreck the old way of programming at a DOS prompt, but it did open up a whole new set of features with the GUI and drawing things on the screen, etc. I know people who still do program at the system level, so this has not changed, but even many of these also take advantage of what a mouse and GUI have to offer. Cheers! I do appreciate feedback, but the piano will never die, any more than the guitar or trombone will. Have all musical instruments been invented already? That is the question.

[chordboard]

How much does it cost?

$1,295 STAC software only

http://www.chordboard.com/index_files/Page509.htm

is much less now

[-[2]DAY_-]

we will have 24 bit sound again in downloads, and our technology is going to fix this.

Umm, what? I have no idea what your comments on earbuds and digital formats have to do with instruments or your technology...

No one will EVER play piano except on a piano. There is no shortcut.

You're marketing the shortcut.

This is not dumbing down music.

I beg to differ.

You saw a young 8 yrd old kid play something pretty incredible for only a couple of days worth of time hacking away at it.

Is there value in creating uninspired random harmonic movement by "hacking away" at something? There's plenty of software that does that already, and its smaller/cheaper.

I often compare what the Chordboard STAC is doing to what the mouse did for the PC.

Yer trollin'.

Have all musical instruments been invented already? That is the question.

Should this one have been invented? "No" is the answer.

[skimpi]

that kid still sounds shit! i dont get it, you just bash keys and it sounds good?

Not exactly, but you are going to get some new and unexpected sounds, and much of it will be harmonic depending on how you play it. I have listened to your song Novavon, and with those sounds you chose, and putting some more harmonics on it, more complex chords, I can hear in my head some really interesting sounds. I really like what you did there.

This is not an "automatic" instrument. You can sound pretty crappy on it if you play it wrong. You can play wrong notes, if you mix chords wrong (that's debateable, because some people like it "wrong" so..) It takes skill to play it. I have been building up some skill on it, and here's a song I did last week and it took about 2 hours to build 18 tracks, and although the mix is rough, its still a demo... it shows what's possible.

Not everyone is going to like it, music is that way, but the Chordboard STAC is a lot of fun and I still use and NEED the piano because it does entirely different things that I still like to hear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpt14YqLJhM

yeah i mean i do think i could have some more complex chords, and im gonna work on that, but id much rather play around with chords on the keyboard, or even move notes around on the piano roll on logic, rather than press loads of white keys and lets some software make nice sounding chords for me.

but when you say you can press wrong notes, i dont get how? like in that video your playing, it seems as if you are pressing just any old white key, or several at a time, and the machine makes nice chords from it? surely if your just pressing the white notes, you can play a 'wrong' note, as they are all in the same scale?

i mean im no piano player, and i cant really see what you are playing, but it just looks like you are pressing any key, or do you know what you want to press, and have a idea of what it will sound like?

[chordboard]

but when you say you can press wrong notes, i dont get how? like in that video your playing, it seems as if you are pressing just any old white key, or several at a time, and the machine makes nice chords from it? surely if your just pressing the white notes, you can play a 'wrong' note, as they are all in the same scale?

i mean im no piano player, and i cant really see what you are playing, but it just looks like you are pressing any key, or do you know what you want to press, and have a idea of what it will sound like?

Yes, I do have an idea of what it will sound like. There are wrong notes that could be played. I could make a video on that but it would sound pretty bad. Just like there is a "right" way to play piano and it takes training and practice, This is just a different way to access the notes, and when piano was invented, and took a harp, turned it sideways and had hammers hit the strings, I am sure there was a paradigm shift in the day. A guitar has frets and a violin does not, and no one would fault the guitar because it was easier to play the note. Same with trombone and trumpet. One has a variable slide tube, and the other three valves. Trumpet seems easier, yet I am sure trumpet players would beg to differ.

When you play black keys on a piano, it is hard to play a "wrong" note, because they are all harmonically spaced like chords, in other words, they create chord "voicings." That's why most people can play the black keys. IRVING BERLIN, about the most prolific songwriter ever, played the black keys, and he had a piano with a tuning wheel so he could change keys and get more out of those black keys. The wheel shifted the harp so that different notes played when he still played the black keys. A chordboard? Maybe.

In order to play a "wrong" note, and again, this is all subjective, you play two or more notes that are adjacent to each other. Sometimes that sounds good though. But when you play three or more together I personally don't think it ever sounds good, it sounds more like a mistake.

On the Chordboard there are seven chords available to play at any one time. If you play two different chords together, there are many instances where the notes are right next to each other, and when played, my personal opinion is that it is a mistake, and is not musically pleasing.

[chordboard]

Here's that scoop on Irving Berlin:
http://americanhistory.si.edu/collectio ... &objkey=59

quote: "This upright transposing piano was made in 1940 by Weser Brothers, New York, for Irving Berlin (1888–1989). Like many Tin Pan Alley pianists, Berlin was self-taught, preferring to play on the black keys. “The key of C,” he once said, “is for people who study music”. The transposing mechanism shifted the keyboard to allow him to stay on the black keys but produce music in other keys."

[moki]

doesn't ableton come with somthing like this?