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Blah25
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Starting in Ultrabeat ?

Post by Blah25 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:00 pm

Ok so i will lay this down first that im a total amature and wanting to start playing about with some Dubstep beats.

I did find a thread earlier on but now i cant find it again and it had some very helpfull info :(

Anyways.....what should i be starting out with in Ultrabeat first, kicks, Snare, Hats ?

Any help id be very greatful :)

BLAH !! :sofa:

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Re: Starting in Ultrabeat ?

Post by vertx » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:44 am

I usually get the kick snare going first as the basis for whole tracks central rhythm, then use hats/percussion to play off the kick snare.

Also maybe stay away from ultrabeat if your want punchy drums and start with learning the exs sampler - if you like working with a step sequencer for drums try guru.

And read this thread.

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=159713

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Re: Starting in Ultrabeat ?

Post by breakbait » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:27 am

vertx wrote:Also maybe stay away from ultrabeat if your want punchy drums and start with learning the exs sampler
Ultrabeat is more effective than exs24 for drums by far. I don't know what your punchy statement is about either.

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Re: Starting in Ultrabeat ?

Post by Mannyyyyy » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:21 am

breakbait wrote:
vertx wrote:Also maybe stay away from ultrabeat if your want punchy drums and start with learning the exs sampler
Ultrabeat is more effective than exs24 for drums by far. I don't know what your punchy statement is about either.
drums on ultrabeat are pretty bad because the ultrabeat fades in the sample even if you have the amp envelope on 0.

mostly just use the esx24 and multichannel output it so you can have control of your samples for eq and further processing.

Also when he means punchy hes talking about the transient from the sample.

hope this helps.

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Re: Starting in Ultrabeat ?

Post by breakbait » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:42 am

Mannyyyyy wrote:
breakbait wrote:
vertx wrote:Also maybe stay away from ultrabeat if your want punchy drums and start with learning the exs sampler
Ultrabeat is more effective than exs24 for drums by far. I don't know what your punchy statement is about either.
drums on ultrabeat are pretty bad because the ultrabeat fades in the sample even if you have the amp envelope on 0. - Where did you hear this?

Also when he means punchy hes talking about the transient from the sample. - really?

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Re: Starting in Ultrabeat ?

Post by vertx » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:46 am

breakbait wrote:
vertx wrote:Also maybe stay away from ultrabeat if your want punchy drums and start with learning the exs sampler
Ultrabeat is more effective than exs24 for drums by far. I don't know what your punchy statement is about either.
Dont get me wrong i love ultrabeat and used it for ages until depone mentioned how it fades the beginning of samples in which i had noticed before but only on certain samples. Theres a thread about it on the logic pro forums which was an interesting read.

I know what you mean though, after learning ultrabeat inside out and becoming used to the step sequencer it felt like a backwards step for me trying to write drums in the exs so that why i went with guru which for me has the best of both plus more.

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