Modulating Movement in Basslines

[Toolman4]

Ok, so I've been grasping Resampling in the context of basslines finally and have come across a question which I'm sure the majority of people will say "it depends on the sound your going for" but I thought I'd ask to see what kind of responses I get, so here goes:

I create a reese in massive, split freqs, eq,fx, etc...I have arrived at a gnarly sound with not much movement (LFO, Envelopes, etc).

At what point is lfo movement more "proper"....Adding movement in the synth itself to get your wobbles, or do you bounce out the bassline to audio, then add your filter on top of that to get your movement?

The latter seems to give me much tighter wobbles.It seems that adding it during synth stage, some of the movement is getting lost somewhere during the Frequency splitting step.

Just wondering, and thanks again for all your help/feedback.

Love.

[Junkie Wind]

Любой способ модулирования баса может быть качественным. Но только в нужный момент и в нужном месте.
Мне начинает нравится использовать небольшую модуляцию по питчу. Или играть с фазой волны...

Any way to modulate the bass can be qualitative. But just at the right time and right place.
I'm starting to like using a small modulation on the pitch. Or play with the phase of the wave ...

[Toolman4]

I don't know if i get it...

Bump?

[xrylex]

it can be done either way, lfo/wobble modulating before or after bouncing to audio. i think it probably just comes down to personal preference and if you are more comfortable doing the modulation in a synth or in a sampler.

personally, i dont feel like i can get lfo cutoff modulation sounding as crisp in a sampler as i can in a synth... so i tend to bounce down different variations of lfo'ed or modulated bass, and then cut n paste the audio together for my final bass sequences, and will process/mangle further from there.

i know lots of people are big on doing the other way and modulating in kontact.

if you have already tried both ways, i say just stick with what feels more comfortable. there is no wrong way to do it if it sounds good.

[CyMoRrR]

I mainly use a synth to create the basic sound i want with some movement but not to much (altough extreme movement can be nice too for really moving noises). Then i put fx on top to create the whole sound i want. Then i cut off the low end till about 120-150hz. And make a extra duplicate with the same settings or just a sub patch (without fx) but with a sinewave for the sub and cut this off at about 70 - 80. I route both of these channels to one group channel and modulate with a filter like the Logic Autofilter or wow filter by sugarbytes.

This way you modulate the sub at the same rates and movement which i fiend works best for my music.

You can also just create the whole sound with alot of frequencies and then split it into 3 bands. Low, mid and hi. Route these to one bus and modulate.

It all depends on your workflow and yes, ofcourse what kind of sound you are after!

[Toolman4]

Awesome, thanks for the replies. I have been doing it all different ways but cohesion will be audible if I stick to one method. Thanks again.

[Recessive Trait]

Sorry for strange English! Please indicate on my mistakes!

another sweet disclaimer. it's disclaimer day for noobs on dsf.

[hifi]

I mainly use a synth to create the basic sound i want with some movement but not to much (altough extreme movement can be nice too for really moving noises). Then i put fx on top to create the whole sound i want. Then i cut off the low end till about 120-150hz. And make a extra duplicate with the same settings or just a sub patch (without fx) but with a sinewave for the sub and cut this off at about 70 - 80. I route both of these channels to one group channel and modulate with a filter like the Logic Autofilter or wow filter by sugarbytes.

This way you modulate the sub at the same rates and movement which i fiend works best for my music.

You can also just create the whole sound with alot of frequencies and then split it into 3 bands. Low, mid and hi. Route these to one bus and modulate.

It all depends on your workflow and yes, ofcourse what kind of sound you are after!

you need 3 buses.... 1 for low, 1 mid, 1 high. and then put a multiband compressor on each bus soloing the low for low and etc