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Re: The Reason Q&A Thread

Post by Arküris » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:57 am

One more question, how can I trigger a .wav file? I thought the NN-XT or NN-19 would do it but I guess not. Do I need to have another DAW like Record or FL? Could I resample it, and if so how?

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Re: The Reason Q&A Thread

Post by brettheaslewood » Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:26 am

Arküris wrote:One more question, how can I trigger a .wav file? I thought the NN-XT or NN-19 would do it but I guess not. Do I need to have another DAW like Record or FL? Could I resample it, and if so how?
open up NN-XT and its programmer, initialize patch, in the middle there should be an empty blue box, right click, add sample? (cant actaully remember what it says, but it's add something) then locate your sample. i think thats it.

then edit in keyroll
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Re: The Reason Q&A Thread

Post by Arküris » Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:58 am

brettheaslewood wrote:
Arküris wrote:One more question, how can I trigger a .wav file? I thought the NN-XT or NN-19 would do it but I guess not. Do I need to have another DAW like Record or FL? Could I resample it, and if so how?
open up NN-XT and its programmer, initialize patch, in the middle there should be an empty blue box, right click, add sample? (cant actaully remember what it says, but it's add something) then locate your sample. i think thats it.

then edit in keyroll
Weird, I had done that before but when I browsed for the files they didn't show up. All sorted now though :W:

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Re: The Reason Q&A Thread

Post by mindcontrol » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:42 am

hey does anyone know of a program that can convert rex files to wav or other audio formats? kinda stumped at the moment, it'll be kinda useful, also looking for sampling tutorials on the nn19 will post this up when i learn what its about and what rex files are and what u can do with them

non reason related, does anyone know of something like a sample manager or good sampling software?

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Re: The Reason Q&A Thread

Post by futures_untold » Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:24 pm

Rex files can be loaded into the NN-XT if that is useful.

Separately, I know in Reaper one could load up a Rex, then auto bounce each slice as a sample. Maybe other DAWs have the same functionality too? (See the Reaper Q&A thread for auto bounce methods)

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Post by serox » Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:37 pm

futures_untold wrote:Rex files can be loaded into the NN-XT if that is useful.

Separately, I know in Reaper one could load up a Rex, then auto bounce each slice as a sample. Maybe other DAWs have the same functionality too? (See the Reaper Q&A thread for auto bounce methods)
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Re: The Reason Q&A Thread

Post by mindcontrol » Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:30 am

thanks futures wonder if ableton can do this, but im making a cut with with recycle then want to load it into software like audacity for editing the sample or making it clean, then save it as a wav and load it into the nn19

also do you know of any good software that is similar to audacity and recycle for editing samples? looking for something a bit up to date

i think rex format is good for triggering different points in the loop

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Re: The Reason Q&A Thread

Post by futures_untold » Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:58 am

Adobe Audition, Wavelab or Soundforge are all heavyweight audio editing programs. My personal preference is for Audition, but only because I never took the time to learn the other two programs.

Are you cleaning up the audio prior to slicing the samples into Rexes, or are you trying to clean up 'dirty' Rexes?

Instead of trying to bounce each individual sample of a Rex loop, why not just load it into your DAW, bounce it as one sample, clean it up in your audio editor and then reslice it?

It seems to me that the faff of slicing a new Rex is less than trying to bounce individual samples... -q-

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Re: The Reason Q&A Thread

Post by Syza » Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:20 pm

A friend asked a question to me regarding Reason that I was puzzled about and had never thought of before.

In Reason 5 you are able to record samples.. The sample length has a maximum recording time of 30 seconds. Is it possible to make the recording split into a new sample at 30 second intervals instead of over-dubbing the previous 30 seconds of recording? By this question, in basic terms I mean configure reason to automatically create new samples of audio when recorded for periods longer than 30 seconds..

I hope someone knows how so I can pass the info on, cheers

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Re: The Reason Q&A Thread

Post by brettheaslewood » Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:33 am

Syza wrote:A friend asked a question to me regarding Reason that I was puzzled about and had never thought of before.

In Reason 5 you are able to record samples.. The sample length has a maximum recording time of 30 seconds. Is it possible to make the recording split into a new sample at 30 second intervals instead of over-dubbing the previous 30 seconds of recording? By this question, in basic terms I mean configure reason to automatically create new samples of audio when recorded for periods longer than 30 seconds..

I hope someone knows how so I can pass the info on, cheers

i havn't used R5 recording in capabilties yet, but im guessing a big fat no, otherwise what would the point be having a max' of 30 secs recording time?
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Re: The Reason Q&A Thread

Post by Glue Reed » Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:21 am

I have R4 and a question with sampling vocals in the NN-XT, if I wanna do a run like use the sample on C2 and then maybe D2, it pitches it up like I'd expect but it also gets shorter as well. Is there a way to set it up so it pitches up without shortening? Or do I have to adjust the length in Audacity and open up a new sampler?

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Re: The Reason Q&A Thread

Post by hudson » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:26 am

Glue Reed wrote:I have R4 and a question with sampling vocals in the NN-XT, if I wanna do a run like use the sample on C2 and then maybe D2, it pitches it up like I'd expect but it also gets shorter as well. Is there a way to set it up so it pitches up without shortening? Or do I have to adjust the length in Audacity and open up a new sampler?
I've been trying to figure this out too... I don't think you can do that honestly.

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Re: The Reason Q&A Thread

Post by AllNightDayDream » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:28 am

Glue Reed wrote:I have R4 and a question with sampling vocals in the NN-XT, if I wanna do a run like use the sample on C2 and then maybe D2, it pitches it up like I'd expect but it also gets shorter as well. Is there a way to set it up so it pitches up without shortening? Or do I have to adjust the length in Audacity and open up a new sampler?
What you'll have to do is use audacity to change the pitch while keeping the length the same, you'd probably want to do this for every few tones depending on the range of pitches you want to use. Then load the different samples into separate zones in the XT, put em in the spots that match their pitch, and you should be good.

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Re: The Reason Q&A Thread

Post by futures_untold » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:56 am

I thought Record have some timestretching/pitchshifting capabilities?? (Although I don't actually know cuz I don't use Record lol)

But just to clarify, Reson can't do decent pitchifting in the manner you're after. It can do some 'creative' pitch shifting using the NN-19 sample start button modulated by a fast gate on signal or by modulating the delay time on one of the delay units, but that ain't what you want.... :(

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Re: The Reason Q&A Thread

Post by TheBrownie » Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:17 am

Nvm.
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Re: The Reason Q&A Thread

Post by DannyLifted » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:47 am

You can pitch samples up and down and maintain length with the neptune pitch adjuster in the latest version of record. Not sure if thats what your referring to
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Re: The Reason Q&A Thread

Post by ammo » Thu May 05, 2011 5:57 pm

Was wondering if anyone can help :)

When I export a tune in Reason it sounds much less clear than it did in the program (especially the bass). Even with no mastering etc (with mastering it sounds MUCH worse). Literally if I play the tune in reason it sounds fine, but on exporting and immediately playing the tune on the same headphones/speakers in winamp it sounds unclear n muddy etc. havnt bought a soundcard, not sure if that might be it?

thanks!

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Post by Ongelegen » Thu May 05, 2011 7:04 pm

ammo wrote:Was wondering if anyone can help :)

When I export a tune in Reason it sounds much less clear than it did in the program (especially the bass). Even with no mastering etc (with mastering it sounds MUCH worse). Literally if I play the tune in reason it sounds fine, but on exporting and immediately playing the tune on the same headphones/speakers in winamp it sounds unclear n muddy etc. havnt bought a soundcard, not sure if that might be it?

thanks!
You probably don't a neutral EQ setting on winamp

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Post by Dyssomnia » Thu May 05, 2011 7:16 pm

I always find Reason to sound like it's in some sort of paper box or something, which really annoys me.
I made my own mastering suite though, which makes it sound a lot clearer IMO.
I'd like to post it up here, but I don't know how to do that, so I might just tell you how to make it yourself instead :)

Make a combinator, put a MClass Equalizer in there, link it to a Mclass Stereo Imager, link that one to a MClass Compressor and finally link that one to a MClass Maximizer.
Settings for the Equalizer:
Lo Cut on, Lo Shelf on with Freq: 134,2 Hz, Gain: 0,6 Db, Q: 1,01
Param 1 on with Freq: 883,9 Hz, Gain: 1,7 Db, Q: 1
Param2 on with Freq: 20KHz, Gain: -10,9, Q: 32
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Setting for stereo imager:
Lo Width: -16,
split frequency: 1,09 KHz
Hi Band, 16
Solo on Normal

Settings for Compressor:
Input gain 0,0
Threshold -12,2 Db & Soft Knee on
4:1 ratio
Attack: 50 ms Release: 327 Ms
Output Gain: 0,0 Db

Settings for the Maximizer:
Input gain: 1,9 Db
Limiter on, 4ms look ahead on
Attack slow, Release auto
Output gain: 3,8 Db
Soft Clip on and Amount on 36.
I got the output level meter mode on Peak, but ofc that's personal ;)

Oh and on a side note: This works well in my 'tracks' but you might have to tweak it a tiny bit to make it fit with your personal flavor :)

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Re: The Reason Q&A Thread

Post by -[2]DAY_- » Thu May 05, 2011 8:31 pm

when i was limited to just reason i would export it and drag into Garage Band, then use the apple multiband comp on GarageBands master bus.

Then i started experimenting with sub-mixes (like just drums, exported to a garageband channel, just pads, etc.)
that led to some decent mixes. I just don't think Reason's made for mixing several different types of signals at high volume all at once.... it's not as though its a daw :6:

also i know you need to make drastic settings sometimes to get results out of Reason, but the above mastering settings are pretty heavyhanded imo. 4:1 ratio on the master sucks the dynamics out of it. Might be necessary though to get the volume and clarity you're after. I can't relate anymore, as i've got a daw now... Reason is wonderful for making parts to a track. Not so good at mixing them.
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