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Because otherwise, u aint gonna get ur tune played!!westernsynthetics wrote: Exactly, why should producers conform to what DJ's want??? .
Seriously though there's nothing wrong switching up bpms, but i'll mix (almost) anything at around 140 bpm, be it hip hop, grime, garage, dubstep. Some of them crunk rnb sorta tunes (Ciara etc...) seem to break up a set well, more with grime tho
wow, can't believe all the people doing 140 and up. I came to dubstep from house & breaks and generally start a dubstep track at 134.
I think dubstep is already falling into the trap that d&b then breaks have already fallen into (and still lay there starting to rot, imo). Maximum diversity and creativity all round is called for.
No formula!
I think dubstep is already falling into the trap that d&b then breaks have already fallen into (and still lay there starting to rot, imo). Maximum diversity and creativity all round is called for.
No formula!
Bring back the step... and the dub!
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Good call. I'll start listing tempo when I hand out choons to get the wagon rolling. Listing the key would be very beneficial as well.conscious_pilot wrote:i understand the whole tempo argument, and i think that listing the tempo of the track on the record or the packaging would help calm this upset for obvious reasons. the producer names the track, why can't he also list the tempo at which it was produced at? why is it a "secret"? i can use tap tempo, and figure it out for myself, but if this information was widely accessible...you know.
just imagine...going to an online record store and browsing by tempo?! dubstep needs to stand up and start doing this, it would give publicity to the genre as being the first to list the tempo.

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I just wrote out the bpm on my dubstep records and just for the record it seems that basically every pressing is between 138 and 142 bpm with most plates being in and around 140bpm.

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DJ Food did that. on the back of the Jazz Brakes albums, but it wasn't laid out in a very pretty way, same font and size and right next to the title of the track... I don't know... figuring out the tempo for a track isn't all that hard, and especially with dubstep, knowing that most tracks are within an 6 bpm stretch (67 to 73 or 134 to 146 if you will) so it's all within +3 or -3 on your turntable. listing the key of the tracks would be neat though. but then again, if you take the time to listen to your records, you get the feel for them, and when you drop one tune, you can hear the other track over it in your head and see if it fits.conscious_pilot wrote:i understand the whole tempo argument, and i think that listing the tempo of the track on the record or the packaging would help calm this upset for obvious reasons. the producer names the track, why can't he also list the tempo at which it was produced at? why is it a "secret"? i can use tap tempo, and figure it out for myself, but if this information was widely accessible...you know.
just imagine...going to an online record store and browsing by tempo?! dubstep needs to stand up and start doing this, it would give publicity to the genre as being the first to list the tempo.
that's what I do anyways.
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I've got two observations to make;
1. tempo tends to around 140, 144 is my personal favorite but i definitely vary that up a bit. tracks that i play all seem to be around this tempo too.
2. this is about conventions, or the idea of 'no conventions'. if we did that (have no conventions) there wouldn't be 'genre' anymore. what marks a genre out is that it that it has a set of common conventions that mark it out differently from other genres. if dubstep had 'no conventions' then it would cease to be 'dubstep' and about the only thing you could say about it conclusively is that it appears to be music.
if one of those conventions is tempo, so be it, maybe this is not desirable or maybe it is, but please lets not pretend we have no conventions. and openly discussing those conventions is a good thing.
1. tempo tends to around 140, 144 is my personal favorite but i definitely vary that up a bit. tracks that i play all seem to be around this tempo too.
2. this is about conventions, or the idea of 'no conventions'. if we did that (have no conventions) there wouldn't be 'genre' anymore. what marks a genre out is that it that it has a set of common conventions that mark it out differently from other genres. if dubstep had 'no conventions' then it would cease to be 'dubstep' and about the only thing you could say about it conclusively is that it appears to be music.
if one of those conventions is tempo, so be it, maybe this is not desirable or maybe it is, but please lets not pretend we have no conventions. and openly discussing those conventions is a good thing.
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