cityzen wrote:One could argue that the human race would not be here at all if we hadn't worked out how to create fire.
Also, I have never in my life seen a naturally occurring fire. We don't have too many volcanoes/lightning hitting super dry trees round here.
you likely don't hear about wildfires much where you're from as you are in a densely populated portion of the world. Back when the world was young and was dominated by wilderness, fires were very common in nature. Hundreds of thousands of acres burned yearly, naturally.
Yes, i've heard of wild fires. Yes, i've seen them on the telly. No, I haven't seen one with my own eyes. Yes, I have traveled around the world. Im saying, I doubt that they happened a lot in my ends. My country is a bit damp don't you know.
What you seem to be saying is that we could have got along just fine by waiting around to use fire created naturally. I'm saying, I doubt lightning strikes were more frequent back then than they are now, so naturally occurring fires were not a daily thing so not being able to create it ourselves would have stunted our development as a species.
BLAHBLAHJAH wrote:... If you're ever in a burning building and you see smoke and smell fire, maybe it's worth getting
out...
cityzen wrote:Yes, i've heard of wild fires. Yes, i've seen them on the telly. No, I haven't seen one with my own eyes. Yes, I have traveled around the world. Im saying, I doubt that they happened a lot in my ends. My country is a bit damp don't you know.
What you seem to be saying is that we could have got along just fine by waiting around to use fire created naturally. I'm saying, I doubt lightning strikes were more frequent back then than they are now, so naturally occurring fires were not a daily thing so not being able to create it ourselves would have stunted our development as a species.
my point is that harnessing fire would lead to the same end results as creating fire.... being able to use fire
Man would have eventually found and understood the advantages of harnessing naturally occurring fire.
The question was humanity's greatest achievement.... not it's most useful.
Romans had commonplace areas for acquisition of flame... and even found ways with sulfur/lime to make flame submergeable in water for periods without being extinguished.
Point being, shortly after fire was created it was learned to be harnessed. Harnessing flame could have still occurred without manual creation of flame.
pkay wrote:Romans had commonplace areas for acquisition of flame... and even found ways with sulfur/lime to make flame submergeable in water for periods without being extinguished.
Point being, shortly after fire was created it was learned to be harnessed. Harnessing flame could have still occurred without manual creation of flame.
Cool, got any links?
BLAHBLAHJAH wrote:... If you're ever in a burning building and you see smoke and smell fire, maybe it's worth getting
out...
pkay wrote:Romans had commonplace areas for acquisition of flame... and even found ways with sulfur/lime to make flame submergeable in water for periods without being extinguished.
Point being, shortly after fire was created it was learned to be harnessed. Harnessing flame could have still occurred without manual creation of flame.
Cool, got any links?
no, I'm just familiar with how a torch works
It is a great advancement for mankind, but our greatest achievement, no.