Noob making himself look like an idiot

purplemonkeydub · Post by **purplemonkeydub** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:18 pm

So I read "want to make dubstep?", BUT after reading all that I still can't decide on what to do.

I have a budget of around $1500, what should I get? Oh and I'm not including software cost in that, just hardware.

Basic A · Post by **Basic A** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:20 pm

Nothing. Until you have MASTERED a piece of software inside and out. Nothing.

the_agonist · Post by **the_agonist** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:21 pm

I could sit here and recommend a bunch of TLA audio valve outboard gear...but, i don't know if you even have a soundcard...or audio cables...so, what do you already have?

purplemonkeydub · Post by **purplemonkeydub** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:25 pm

Well I have nothing at all, I'm JUST starting out. I heard Ableton Live was pretty easy to work with so I'm going to get that soon. Soundcard... Like an apogee duet?

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:37 pm

Ergh.. The reason the production bible was created was so people can use their own initiative!!!!!

There is no 'ONE' daw to use, they all have good and bad points, demo them ALL - find what you like the most and BUY it

here is a list of mainstream DAWs.

Reaper
Renoise
Logic
Ableton Live
FL Studio
Reason
Cubase

Heres a list of hardware you need more than hardware synths and processing effects.

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 644#894644

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=32371

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=67046

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=32371

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=67063

PERCEPT · Post by **PERCEPT** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:41 pm

Fucking hell, get a free DAW or something like Cubase/Logic if you're serious for a few hundred. Work out the plugins that come within that DAW and then move on from there. Get a pair of monitors for a few hundred and a soundcloud for less than £100, sorted.

Then spend that $1500 on football accumulators and Jack Daniels.

purplemonkeydub · Post by **purplemonkeydub** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:42 pm

I like the Jack Daniels idea...

PERCEPT · Post by **PERCEPT** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:45 pm

But seriously, there's people on this forum using free DAWs, freeware plugins, an old beat up laptop and value hifi speakers who're making quality music. A pair of monitors and a soundcard is definitely nice, and if you're serious it's worth splashing a bit of cash on a decent audio workstation like Cubase/Logic, but other than that i'd leave it at least half a year before spending any more.

I went down the hardware route when i first started 2 or 3 years ago too and whilst it was fun it was essentially lost money. I clearly remember recording my MicroKorg and my Roland MC-303 into audacity using an audio interface i bought for £3 on ebay. Ahhhhhh

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:53 pm

MC 303 crew !

PERCEPT · Post by **PERCEPT** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:04 pm

Haha you got one too Chris?

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:06 pm

Indeed! I wanna get loads of us owners together and do a orchestra.

purplemonkeydub · Post by **purplemonkeydub** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:07 pm

Sounds good man. I went to a local music store, and this guy was just tryin to sell me loads of stuff I don't need... I'm tryin to spend as little as possible, but I don't want to sacrifice the quality of the music I'll be making. So I guess a decent midi keyboard, a nice pair of headphones(I'm in an apartment... No monitors for me!), and logic should be enough?

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:14 pm

You need a mac for Logic.

A good windows alternative is Cubase or Reaper (when it comes to look of it)

Basically, I ain't encouraging any illegal downloading but all you REALLY need is a daw, a keyboard and a mouse... For the last 2years ive wrote everything on a PC keyboard for playing notes or writing the notes in... Once you get into making music properly, you'll care about mix downs and getting better and then you can make purchases.. Just make sure you're using something which has bass response (no ipod headphone business) but a good pair of headphones are an investment really, they can double as your mp3-player headphones.

purplemonkeydub · Post by **purplemonkeydub** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:31 pm

I have a macbook pro, and my friend has Logic laying around somewhere. Thanks for the help guys!

PERCEPT · Post by **PERCEPT** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:32 pm

legend4ry wrote:Indeed! I wanna get loads of us owners together and do a orchestra.

If the next DSF meetup party thing happens, i'm bringing mine with me. We'll have an afterparty somewhere and make some funky MC-303 goodness

AxeD · Post by **AxeD** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:34 pm

I think most people on here won't agree but I think Reason is pretty easy to use. It's more of a simulation of the
hardware setups then other DAW's, that's why it makes more sense to me.

Basic A · Post by **Basic A** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:47 pm

PERCEPT wrote:an old beat up laptop and value hifi speakers

...you talkin bout me?

OP, no daw is easier or harder then others, they all work essentially the same, its a question of what color you want your background, essentially.

PERCEPT · Post by **PERCEPT** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:55 pm

Basic A wrote:
PERCEPT wrote:an old beat up laptop and value hifi speakers
...you talkin bout me?

OP, no daw is easier or harder then others, they all work essentially the same, its a question of what color you want your background, essentially.

Na, you must have missed the bit after when i mentioned they were making quality music.

OH SHI-, TUNE BATTLE

Basic A · Post by **Basic A** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:24 pm

PERCEPT wrote:
Basic A wrote:
PERCEPT wrote:an old beat up laptop and value hifi speakers
...you talkin bout me?

OP, no daw is easier or harder then others, they all work essentially the same, its a question of what color you want your background, essentially.
Na, you must have missed the bit after when i mentioned they were making quality music.

OH SHI-, TUNE BATTLE

but...

no more battles for me.

ever.

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:25 pm

Basic A wrote:
PERCEPT wrote:
Basic A wrote:
PERCEPT wrote:an old beat up laptop and value hifi speakers
...you talkin bout me?

OP, no daw is easier or harder then others, they all work essentially the same, its a question of what color you want your background, essentially.
Na, you must have missed the bit after when i mentioned they were making quality music.

OH SHI-, TUNE BATTLE

but...

no more battles for me.

ever.

Cause you're afraid of losing.

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