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[decklyn]

mushug,

i think thats whats missing-time stretching. would you know if this is possible with audacityu or should i move on to another bit of software? thanks for your time brov, your chest!

Yeah I'm with deadly habit. First search out an acapella.

Then you can try to grab some dry bits out in your fav audio editor program. Once you've got all your samples sorted, track attack in your sequencer!

[mushug]

mushug,

i think thats whats missing-time stretching. would you know if this is possible with audacityu or should i move on to another bit of software? thanks for your time brov, your chest!

dunno, haven't tried audacity.
but you can do it on cubase if you use it as your sequencer.

here's an example, i was supposed to make a little bit but ended up making like almost a minute...
http://ultrashare.de/f/7339/faceinnacloud.rar.html just click free (left option) and then download


it's a rar file with the original source where i sampled it from and the remix, just did this in less than 40 min with recycle + reason, it has no bassline, no synth, no plugins, only used a beat from a previous project and the samples from the original so it's pretty shit but i think you can get an idea how some remixes are done.
if you want i can send you the wavs so you can check it better.

oh and yes, i have lots of free time, that's what you get when you're unemployed.

[tenbucc2]

How to organize sample folders in the best way.

how you Fl users are resampling. (the whole work flow)

[b-lam]

this may be a bit much but a tutorial on multiband compression would be ace

anyone have the knowledge?

[jahtao]

this may be a bit much but a tutorial on multiband compression would be ace

anyone have the knowledge?

I say stay well away from multiband compression, (except for de-essing). Especially on the mix bus, (is that where you were thinking of using it?), as most people tend to view it as either:

An antidote to poor EQing through-out a tune - often the cure is worse than the disease if you ask me - but mostly you need to be getting it right at source, that's all there is to it, sorry no magic fix for a bad mix.

Or a way to get a track super ridiculously loud - not needed and completely evil.

Get a good understanding of EQ and compression and, apart from being a don, you will find you have an understanding of multiband compression... and why it sucks.

[deadly_habit]

How to organize sample folders in the best way.

how you Fl users are resampling. (the whole work flow)

i'll try to do something up for you on resampling in fl
anything in particular you're looking for?
as far as organizing samples its personal preference
i keep packs i dl off net in their own folders for quick sorting
waveforms in another folder
and resampled shit or shit i made myself in a folder called dh waveforms or dh custom pack

[deadly_habit]

this may be a bit much but a tutorial on multiband compression would be ace

anyone have the knowledge?

yea unless you've taken a mastering engineers course i'd stear clear
even alot of MEs will tell you to avoid this technique

[deadly_habit]

oh and ya example of my own comp sample folder


use alot of akai discs and such too

[chubbs]

this may be a bit much but a tutorial on multiband compression would be ace

anyone have the knowledge?

Best left for mastering but can be used to beef up breaks, etc. I found this tutorial a while back on mastering that showed how to make cubase into a multi band compressor - it makes it much easier to understand what's going on.

You split the signal into 3 group channels. Put the same eq on each channel, one isolating bass, one mids and the other trebble. Make sure the cutoffs are at the same point on eech and the filter has the same slope. On each channel use a high quality compressor (same one on each channel again, this insures there will be no latency on any channel. You have now made a 3 band compressor. Play around with the compressor settings on each channel. You can solo them to hear what's going on.

[decklyn]

You can use multiband compressor for more than just mastering.

Using it on drums and vocals preserves texture during mid frequency spikes.

You don't need to apply it manually as mentioned - SX3 comes with a multiband compressor and there are various free ones. Waves C4 is decent too.

Essentially its application is the same as for single band compression, but you have much more flexibility as there are several compressors to set up. It can be used along side, or actually replace, traditional EQ as well, as you have control over the output gain of each compressor too.

Try it on vox and drums, and bass. You'll be suprised at the results! You can maintain midrange quality when applying to basses, and high frequency fidelity when applied to vocals and drums! There is no "right" way to apply. Just start with a preset, and experiment.

[deadly_habit]

i dunno i stear clear of multiband compression like someone said before its a substitute for good eqing and such in first place

[jahtao]

RE Multiband

Shit. Def fuck about with it. Go nuts. If its sounds hype then it is most definitely is hype, especially with individual sounds. But literally 999 out of 1000 dodgey full mixes with multiband comp slapped on them just end up sounding dodgey in a different way.

Yeah the C4 is nice, i used to use it in the top-mid band for essing and low mid for when a singer got a bit closer to the mic and went all bassy a lot, kept that shit in check. But the thing is when you split something up into freq bands, the freq areas around those split points end up in both zones. They overlap. Thats how filters work, they have a slope. 12db per octave etc. And you get a smearing affect in the crossover areas. Thats why ME's (traditionally) dont like it.

Maybe I'm being too purist.

Point is a good mix doesn't need it.

Plus its wierd and unnatural.

I'd advise that if you like what multiband comp is doing. Work out why that is and replicate it with regular EQ and compression. I belive, across a mix, it will sound better every time.

[chubbs]

^^ Good point, I been using one for pretty much all my home mastering just because I thought that was the done thing. Subtlety is the key though. If you compress anything too hard it will sound shitty.

[joseph-j]

I'd like to learn about vsts. I have absolutely no idea how to use them.

[tenbucc2]

oh and ya example of my own comp sample folder


use alot of akai discs and such too

Jesus!!! you must know those folders pretty good. I TRY to seperate sounds like drums folder> snares> rolls,hits,rims, etc.
Kiks>heavy,soft,fx'd,synth>808,909,etc.
Usually i keep sample packs together like your folder but alot of times those get overlooked.

but drums are pretty easy to organize... the hard thing is dealing with all the other sounds in a logical manner. i live in a chaotic folder state ATM. which i'm pretty comfortable with but I'm always on the prowl for a better system that makes sense.

[decklyn]

I have a 40gig sample folder. It's impossible to organize in any real logical manner.

What I do is organize it by the source that I got it from.

ie) Computer Music Cds
Symbiant Sample Swap 1
Symbiant Sample Swap 2
Decklyn's Waveforms
TorontoJungle Sample Swaps
DOA Sample Swaps
Sample CDs

etc etc

It gives some randomness to sample hunting I never know what I'll come out with.

I don't know -as far as multiband compression - I know that alot of mastering engineers ARE using it over thier mixes. A perfect example of this is the TC Finalizer. I use multiband compression over virtually all of my tunes, more as an effect than for dynamics control, just to give some aggressive bite, as my tunes are generally pretty chilled out and need it. If you've EQd your elements well, then you can maintain space, but squeeze out a bit of extra loudness from your tune. In previous experience, if your EQ work is shit in your track, then multiband compression will just result in elements getting eaten up by other conflicting elements to a greater degree than they already were.

[daft cunt]

Decklyn my man, you done with your exams? Really feel a urge for that bass processing method. I'm learning by myself btw but few tips & tricks would definitly help saving time and become more creative.

[daft cunt]

Bump

[fullyrecordingz]

you dun know the desktop

my SOUND directory

[Jubz]

Mixdowns, as my thread seemed to die on its arse.