Serious time, folks.

[Basic A]

Right I'm no website designer so don't know if these things are even possible but here goes.

I agree with the notion of a separate sub forum for more technological based threads, however I don't think it should be completely closed off to noobs. I think they should be able to freely browse the forum and gain info from it, just with their posting privileges disabled for that sub forum until they gain the right to post there. The problem is how to decide who's allowed to post fairly? I say that because I lurked around this forum for a very long time before joining and if it wasn't for the really technological threads I wouldn't of even joined.

I also think it would be amazing if there was any way that you could incorporate the google search for DSF somewhere as an applet at the top of the production section with some way of indicating to people to use it first, this should cut the skrillex threads hopefully.

The stickies are great, however it'd be a lot more useful if you could barebones them a bit more just down to the advice instead of 50 posts of 'yeah eq with bitcrusher on the sub bass with full steroe seperation init'. I'm not saying to delete the posts but maybe make a mirror thread with just the useful advice in it. A noob isn't going to wade through shit tonnes of responses looking for something, if he doesn't find it on a plate easily he'll just reach for the new thread button.

Lastly a filter that a filter that sends the user of any posts about skrillex to an alpaca sub section of the forum consisting of a gallery of alpacas with a download link for HAM VST which pays a £20 donation to the DSF paypal account.

Just joking on the last part though

http://www.dubstepforum.com/dsf-google-t130965.html

Google Search for dubstep Forum.

If you use it, bump it, so more people will realize it exists.

[makemerich]

i would like to see a patch sharing area so that the people who just want to get patches and share them can do so.

[oprs]

cause we all know you just wanna see how the patch was made right?..

[makemerich]

i make patches all day.

[oprs]

nice to see the pirates will still have head wear then.

[pete_bubonic]

cause we all know you just wanna see how the patch was made right?..

imho, this kinda of needlessly assumptive and aggressive posts is exactly what's not needed.

[wub]

cause we all know you just wanna see how the patch was made right?..

imho, this kinda of needlessly assumptive and aggressive posts is exactly what's not needed.

Fully agreed. I've said it elsewhere is relevant in here;

]when you bought Massive

C'mon now

There is too much pessimism round here and people getting tarred & feathered as soon as the M word is mentioned. I think moving forward, it'd be healthier for the Production board as a whole is we assume that people are using legit copies of Massive, and answer their questions as such.

If, at a later point down the line, it is revealed that the copy of Massive is cracked, then fair enough, my advise will only go so far. But as far as blanket labelling everyone who has a Massive issue with the same tag, tbh it's gotten a bit boring recently.

NB: That last point is a reflection of the attitude of the Production board as a whole, not singling out anyone in particular.

Innocent until proven guilty where Massive is concerned wouldn't be a bad thing on the production board in fairness

Besides, the majority of Massive questions usually fall into only a couple of categories;

Q) How do I automate the LFO?
A) The latest patch of Massive has the LFO sync as a parameter that can be automated. If the user does not have the latest version, direct them to the NI site to download it.

Q) How do I make this sound?
A) Either direct them to the How Do I Make This Sound thread, or if it's a specific question involving Skrillex/Datsik/Borgore etc, either direct them to the Announcement thread at the top or else to one of the many Resampling threads

[oprs]

cause we all know you just wanna see how the patch was made right?..

imho, this kinda of needlessly assumptive and aggressive posts is exactly what's not needed.

being on an online forum im entitled to my own opinion, given if we had a patch swap section it would also be over run with people asking for the generic borgore skrillex datsik bass's.
all im saying is there is nothing more we can do but ride it out, fads come and go.

and what fun would this place be if everyone didn't poke at everyone? the ones that realize there is actually alot of knowledge to be shared stay and the people who want to be the flavor of the month rage thread and leave.

[pete_bubonic]

cause we all know you just wanna see how the patch was made right?..

imho, this kinda of needlessly assumptive and aggressive posts is exactly what's not needed.

being on an online forum im entitled to my own opinion, given if we had a patch swap section it would also be over run with people asking for the generic borgore skrillex datsik bass's.

Perhaps if we had a place where people had recreated the patches of skrillex/datsik etc then they would just dl them instead of constantly asking the same questions over and over again? Once they saw the settings in their synth of choice and made their yoi yoi sound, they'd be satisfied?

and what fun would this place be if everyone didn't poke at everyone?

This implies the statement has to be humorous/funny to start with. Needless wind ups and that belong in the SNH, not here.

[phenlight]

Just open a filth/brostep forum for them.

[makemerich]

nice to see the pirates will still have head wear then.

lol

[oprs]

cause we all know you just wanna see how the patch was made right?..

imho, this kinda of needlessly assumptive and aggressive posts is exactly what's not needed.

being on an online forum im entitled to my own opinion, given if we had a patch swap section it would also be over run with people asking for the generic borgore skrillex datsik bass's.

Perhaps if we had a place where people had recreated the patches of skrillex/datsik etc then they would just dl them instead of constantly asking the same questions over and over again? Once they saw the settings in their synth of choice and made their yoi yoi sound, they'd be satisfied?

and what fun would this place be if everyone didn't poke at everyone?

This implies the statement has to be humorous/funny to start with. Needless wind ups and that belong in the SNH, not here.

if this were the case then i would run to the New Thread button as fast i could, but we all know its not that simple.

and if everyone here was such a tight ass where would that get us?
im quite sure there is numerous posters in the production threads that enjoy a little fun poking where needed but 8 times out of 10 answers that are needed are usually addressed.
unless it your generic 12 year old wanting us to point him in every direction possible so they dont have to do any work.

[ForbiddenFruitRecord]

Interesting points made and I understand where many of you are coming from but I've never been one to agree on segregation. At the end of the day if a topic doesnt seem relevant to you you dont have to read it, and as many have said everyone has to start somewhere...

I remember a wise saying, from whom im not sure... "pay attention to children, just as you help them they can also help you"

[grooki]

if there was a time lapse between when you join the forum and when you can post in the production section, I think that would cut the incidence of those threads. A lot of the "spam" posts asking about how to make teh filthy bass are brand new users, and if they had to wait for a week, they might have read the stickies by then.

[oprs]

if there was a time lapse between when you join the forum and when you can post in the production section, I think that would cut the incidence of those threads. A lot of the "spam" posts asking about how to make teh filthy bass are brand new users, and if they had to wait for a week, they might have read the stickies by then.

ive been pondering this but i didnt know if it was possible

[The Wests]

I used to go on the ILLMUZIK hip hop forum a lot and they had a really concept…. The showcase thread…. This was only opened for 3 days once a week or something, so instead of people constantly posting their tunes and saying “gimme some feedback” then no one does, the thread sort of concentrated that energy into one place at one time, meaning a lot of people got feedback on their tracks at the same time in the same place… it was always kind of exciting as well you know having to actually wait to post and get feedback and listen to others tunes as well!

I dunno it kind of focus’ the mind and stopped people banging out a shit 16 bars copying it 4 times and saying it is a finished track because they want instant recognition and instant feedback…. In this situation that wouldn’t happen…

It worked for them, I enjoyed it, so I cant see why it wouldn’t work elsewhere…. It is sort of like the demo panel, but without industry peeps…. For the people, by the people!

I think it would also avoid all the f’ing bumping people do! Geez!

[legend4ry]

I'm taking points from everyone .
Its safe to say, when I took the mod role - I didn't realise how much went into keeping a forum like this a good place, I have to admit its probably my slacking paying part to the troubles we're facing...




For those lurkers, this isn't just about regulars, what would YOU wanna get out of the forum as a user..This is your time for everyone to speak up, without getting flamed - just keep it constructive .

[oprs]

I'm taking points from everyone .
Its safe to say, when I took the mod role - I didn't realise how much went into keeping a forum like this a good place, I have to admit its probably my slacking paying part to the troubles we're facing...




For those lurkers, this isn't just about regulars, what would YOU wanna get out of the forum as a user..This is your time for everyone to speak up, without getting flamed - just keep it constructive .

the only thing really that could clean up ALOT of the mess was the idea of having users to wait before posting a thread.

then it wouldn't be clutter with 10-15 threads of how to make this sound on page 1, and its happening daily
but im also understanding to the fact i know its difficult to try and curb all this from happening so right now its a lose-lose situation

[legend4ry]

Is this really just about the huge influx of "how to make this sound" threads?

Cause I can easily ban those, lock every thread what asks how to make a sound apart from the ones provided (like the feedback thread). I am not THAT harsh on these threads as I am not 100% clued up with certain aspects of Dubstep (nor the best sound designer) I tend to not look at those as much. No one actually sends me Pm's saying they have a problem with these threads though.. I get messages about trolling and moaning so I am askin what will stop you doing that?


If you check the first post.. I will grab the key points what me and Pete can deffo-do and will throw up a survey.

Anyone who cares about what happens to Production should start airing opinions, if everyones running out of steam (as in the solid regulars and general community) then Production could easily not exist. (thats not a threat btw or happening, just a possibility if we don't bring some optimism)

[oprs]

Is this really just about the huge influx of "how to make this sound" threads?

Cause I can easily ban those, lock every thread what asks how to make a sound apart from the ones provided (like the feedback thread). I am not THAT harsh on these threads as I am not 100% clued up with certain aspects of Dubstep (nor the best sound designer) I tend to not look at those as much.


If you check the first post.. I will grab the key points what me and Pete can deffo-do and will throw up a survey.

Anyone who cares about what happens to Production should start airing opinions, if everyones running out of steam (as in the solid regulars and general community) then Production could easily not exist. (thats not a threat btw or happening, just a possibility if we don't bring some optimism)

i mean it is and it isn't.
its just seeing the same thread over and over everyday that kinda makes you go damn, wasn't this covered yesterday?

sound design-which cdj works better- why wont my massive work?-
the list goes on, but it just seems like its answered everyday and it pops back up within 12 hours.
i think new forum users would gain a lot more respect by actually taking the time to scroll down for answers instead of automatically going for the new topic button
i would 150% agree with a week wait period of signing up til actually being able to make new threads