FM Sampler

jrisreal · Post by **jrisreal** » Thu May 12, 2011 8:06 am

Ok so I am a huge fan of FM synthesis. I have wav's (other than one-shot waveforms) that I want to FM the same way as I would in a synth. Sytrus works with one-shot waveforms only, so how would I go about FM'ing a longer waveform?

EDIT: I don't have cash to spend at the moment, so I would appreciate any free samplers/plugins that have this feature

buttock · Post by **buttock** » Thu May 12, 2011 8:12 am

in Karmafx modular you can use audio signals to modulate everything. As it has a sampler you could use this to modulate a simple oscillator, which sounds pretty nice, but the other way round I always ended up in a mess.

jrisreal · Post by **jrisreal** » Thu May 12, 2011 8:43 am

buttock wrote:in Karmafx modular you can use audio signals to modulate everything. As it has a sampler you could use this to modulate a simple oscillator, which sounds pretty nice, but the other way round I always ended up in a mess.

Oops, forgot to mention I dont have cash to spend on anything at the moment

buttock · Post by **buttock** » Thu May 12, 2011 8:53 am

I'm not aware of any free vst that can do something like this.

RandoRando · Post by **RandoRando** » Thu May 12, 2011 8:56 am

So you want something that FM synthesis does, modulators modulating operators, but you want the modulator and operators to be audio samples?

buttock · Post by **buttock** » Thu May 12, 2011 8:57 am

that's the way I understood it.

jrisreal · Post by **jrisreal** » Thu May 12, 2011 8:58 am

yeah thats pretty much it. modulators can be oscillators though.

buttock · Post by **buttock** » Thu May 12, 2011 9:02 am

maybe you should try reaper, because it is possible to use any audiosource as modulation input on any vst parameter.

jrisreal · Post by **jrisreal** » Thu May 12, 2011 9:03 am

buttock wrote:maybe you should try reaper, because it is possible to use any audiosource as modulation input on any vst parameter.

lol. aint about to daws for something like this. i just paid $300 for a legit copy of FL

paradigm_x · Post by **paradigm_x** » Thu May 12, 2011 9:34 am

Absynth will do this, AFAIK, but its not free...

jrisreal · Post by **jrisreal** » Thu May 12, 2011 9:42 am

dang. im starting to get into FL Synthmaker...have no idea how it works just yet, but I'm thinking it can be a huge step in my synthesis and I'd probably be able to do this somehow with Synthmaker once I learn how to use it

daft cunt · Post by **daft cunt** » Thu May 12, 2011 9:55 am

Isn't ring modulation and FM basicly the same thing ? You could still use a vst if your sampler doesn't have that feature.

jrisreal · Post by **jrisreal** » Thu May 12, 2011 9:59 am

daft tnuc wrote:Isn't ring modulation and FM basicly the same thing ? You could still use a vst if your sampler doesn't have that feature.

ring modulation modulates the volume output but frequency modulation modulates the frequency...not the same. and to clarify, FL default sampler CAN do FM, but only by setting an LFO to the pitch and turning the speed all the way up. And the modulator's frequency can't be controlled without going back to the inaudible range.

RandoRando · Post by **RandoRando** » Thu May 12, 2011 10:40 am

jrisreal wrote:
daft tnuc wrote:Isn't ring modulation and FM basicly the same thing ? You could still use a vst if your sampler doesn't have that feature.
ring modulation modulates the volume output but frequency modulation modulates the frequency...not the same. and to clarify, FL default sampler CAN do FM, but only by setting an LFO to the pitch and turning the speed all the way up. And the modulator's frequency can't be controlled without going back to the inaudible range.

Damn you are smart

zerbaman · Post by **zerbaman** » Thu May 12, 2011 6:00 pm

I think you can make one in synthmaker. I made a synth which enabled me to draw waveshapes manually. Only issue was getting it to save with the FLP.
I never tried dragging waveshapes in because untill recently, I never had any to try with, but not got that synth anymore, comp crashed a while back

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Fri May 13, 2011 4:31 am

paradigm x wrote:Absynth will do this, AFAIK, but its not free...

Really? I really need to dig into absynth. Of all of komplete, it is by far my least used plugin. I've opened it three or four times, tried some presets that I didn't like, squinted at the ugly interface that I PATENTLY didn't understand, and just closed the fucker.

jrisreal · Post by **jrisreal** » Fri May 13, 2011 4:43 am

nowaysj wrote:
paradigm x wrote:Absynth will do this, AFAIK, but its not free...
Really? I really need to dig into absynth. Of all of komplete, it is by far my least used plugin. I've opened it three or four times, tried some presets that I didn't like, squinted at the ugly interface that I PATENTLY didn't understand, and just closed the fucker.

Massive isn't the most beautiful piece of

either imo

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Fri May 13, 2011 4:48 am

Wait, wut? Were you saying Massive? I literally think that is the best designed synth vst gui out there. I really really like it. Very logical flow, roomy without being big, tangible without being jokey and inaccurate, muted colors with just the right amount of contrast, without being too dark. I can and do literally stare at that thing for hours every day. I really like that ui man!

jrisreal · Post by **jrisreal** » Fri May 13, 2011 4:54 am

nowaysj wrote:Wait, wut? Were you saying Massive? I literally think that is the best designed synth vst gui out there. I really really like it. Very logical flow, roomy without being big, tangible without being jokey and inaccurate, muted colors with just the right amount of contrast, without being too dark. I can and do literally stare at that thing for hours every day. I really like that ui man!

Meh, situation of preference I guess.

I don't like the interface mainly because the look of it reminds me of some ugly freeware I used to use.

BeastModeForDummies · Post by **BeastModeForDummies** » Fri May 13, 2011 5:31 am

hate to go off topic on your post jr but are you yanking all this fm knowledge from any where specific i know we're on the same daw and im really getting into sytrus just wanna keep pushing further

edit: really didnt mean to go off topic i just see you standing for FM, and wanna know where youre getting proper from

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