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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by babylonjunkies » Fri May 20, 2011 5:28 pm

yeah we have our own shit pop and the crap that you export to us. but uk got some serious music, absolutely buzzing electronic scene

however, im fully on the la hiphop flex that america is churning out at the moment... flying lotus, daedelus, teebs, nosaj thing, shigeto

all the older shit, the roots, mos def, dilla, talib kweli, biggy, - that was all i bumped when i was your age.

when it comes to elements in your music - don't add anything for the sake of adding it. only add it if it makes the song better. you have to be your own worst critic. texture and feeling and emotion are hard to get to grips with straighth away... but thats where your music becomes unique. i add a lot field recordings to my music, lots of organic hits for the drums. you have to have ghost notes in your drums, can work nice on your bass too.

the art is in the simplicity, the genius is in the subtlety.
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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by psychedelicatessen » Fri May 20, 2011 8:02 pm

hxczach wrote:GETTING HIGH AT THE AGE OF 14?!
Kids these days... :a:

O wait... :o :cornlol:
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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by Basic A » Fri May 20, 2011 8:13 pm

babylonjunkies wrote:yeah we have our own shit pop and the crap that you export to us. but uk got some serious music, absolutely buzzing electronic scene

however, im fully on the la hiphop flex that america is churning out at the moment... flying lotus, daedelus, teebs, nosaj thing, shigeto

all the older shit, the roots, mos def, dilla, talib kweli, biggy, - that was all i bumped when i was your age.

when it comes to elements in your music - don't add anything for the sake of adding it. only add it if it makes the song better. you have to be your own worst critic. texture and feeling and emotion are hard to get to grips with straighth away... but thats where your music becomes unique. i add a lot field recordings to my music, lots of organic hits for the drums. you have to have ghost notes in your drums, can work nice on your bass too.

the art is in the simplicity, the genius is in the subtlety.
Its not just l.a., thats a ridiculously small portion of the left field market...
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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by zerbaman » Sat May 21, 2011 4:05 pm

meaningfulness of tunes is relative. Some people will feel it. Others won't.
but just get making stuff, and not worrying about having the most transforming basslines, and filthiest wobbles. Just relax, keep things simple.

Wouldn't be a bad Idea to smoke some weed and listen to some classics.
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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by AJGR » Sat May 21, 2011 4:41 pm

if you like house and techno move to berlin
if you like dubstep, garage, house, techno, D&B, brokenbeat, breaks, there is only one city, London

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by zerbaman » Sat May 21, 2011 5:06 pm

AJGR wrote:if you like house and techno move to berlin
Just run a youtube search for "Stimming"

That'll blow your mind-hole
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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by Ayatollah » Sun May 22, 2011 12:59 am

AJGR wrote:if you like house and techno move to berlin
if you like dubstep, garage, house, techno, D&B, brokenbeat, breaks, there is only one city, London
if you like filthy brostep stay where you are

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by FluidMoShun » Sun May 22, 2011 4:41 am

Best advice I can think to give: Do drugs and push your mind to its limits.. and once you reach that point, realize there are no limits and push it further.

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by Ldizzy » Sun May 22, 2011 9:14 am

wow i love ur thread man. seriously glad to hear u dig for some new stuff.

if i were u id listen to as much different music as i can...

the early mala stuff is crazy... and thats the thing with these artists : their sound changes a lot... its allowed a certain freedom...

id say, listen to a lot of music, and then spend time making tunes the way u like them...

make good drumlines, there's a shitload of info on drumlines...

and care for your dynamic range

oh and one thing id do is : as these guys are orignitaors, u should try to listen to pre-dubstep music, or just other genres of music that'll get you inspired... anything. inbreeding in musical genre is the reason for that obvious lack of originality everyone from every style always complains about...

welcome man, welcome :D
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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by Ayatollah » Sun May 22, 2011 11:32 am

FluidMoShun wrote:Best advice I can think to give: Do drugs and push your mind to its limits.. and once you reach that point, realize there are no limits and push it further.
"best advice I can give to a 14 year old who wants to make dubstep: do drugs"

what are you, 14???

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by CBK81 » Sun May 22, 2011 3:09 pm

Just make what you think sounds cool. At 14 you probably aren't going to be churning out anything major yet anyway, so have fun with it!

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by FluidMoShun » Sun May 22, 2011 3:52 pm

Ayatollah wrote:
FluidMoShun wrote:Best advice I can think to give: Do drugs and push your mind to its limits.. and once you reach that point, realize there are no limits and push it further.
"best advice I can give to a 14 year old who wants to make dubstep: do drugs"

what are you, 14???
I'm 20, but I started smoking and eating mushies around 14. Hallucinogenic drugs are good kid, but remember, if it goes up your nose, keep away from those.. and if it goes in your vein, it'll put holes in your brain.

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by Ayatollah » Sun May 22, 2011 4:20 pm

FluidMoShun wrote:
Ayatollah wrote:
FluidMoShun wrote:Best advice I can think to give: Do drugs and push your mind to its limits.. and once you reach that point, realize there are no limits and push it further.
"best advice I can give to a 14 year old who wants to make dubstep: do drugs"

what are you, 14???
I'm 20, but I started smoking and eating mushies around 14. Hallucinogenic drugs are good kid, but remember, if it goes up your nose, keep away from those.. and if it goes in your vein, it'll put holes in your brain.
who gives a fuck what you did or didn't do at 14... you're old enough to know better than telling a child to "do drugs" and it's just stupid to give "do drugs" as production advice, moreso to a 14 year old boy.

edit: reworded a bit, no need to be insulting

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by FluidMoShun » Sun May 22, 2011 4:54 pm

Ayatollah wrote:
FluidMoShun wrote:
Ayatollah wrote:
FluidMoShun wrote:Best advice I can think to give: Do drugs and push your mind to its limits.. and once you reach that point, realize there are no limits and push it further.
"best advice I can give to a 14 year old who wants to make dubstep: do drugs"

what are you, 14???
I'm 20, but I started smoking and eating mushies around 14. Hallucinogenic drugs are good kid, but remember, if it goes up your nose, keep away from those.. and if it goes in your vein, it'll put holes in your brain.
who gives a fuck what you did or didn't do at 14... you're old enough to know better than telling a child to "do drugs" and it's just stupid to give "do drugs" as production advice, moreso to a 14 year old boy.

edit: reworded a bit, no need to be insulting
Don't use semantics to try to distort what I said. I'm not telling a 'child' to do drugs.. I'm telling a 14 year old that chemicals like thc add an interesting element to your thought process when producing. And I told him to stay away from all other drugs, including legal ones, like ADD medicine, which is for all intents and purposes, kiddie-meth.

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by Ayatollah » Sun May 22, 2011 5:06 pm

FluidMoShun wrote: Don't use semantics to try to distort what I said. I'm not telling a 'child' to do drugs.. I'm telling a 14 year old that chemicals like thc add an interesting element to your thought process when producing. And I told him to stay away from all other drugs, including legal ones, like ADD medicine, which is for all intents and purposes, kiddie-meth.
uhh no you actually told a 14 year old "Best advice I can think to give: Do drugs and push your mind to its limits" so don't accuse me of distorting what you said cos I didn't. Not even getting into those other retarded blanket statements you made there.

(ADD medicine don't go "up your nose" btw.)

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by fragments » Sun May 22, 2011 5:46 pm

Yea, do drugs, that is the answer...because drugs have enhanced the lives and careers of SO many creative people. Nothing ever went wrong there...nope, drugs are the reason all those people did so well.

There are many, many, many other things you can do besides drugs to expand your mind. I smoke grass. I've imbibed plenty of other chemicals as well . Ultimately none of them have inspired me. What has inspired me is experience...getting out and doing things outside your everyday experience. If you want to "think outside the box" go do things that are outside of your box.
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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by Ldizzy » Sun May 22, 2011 7:03 pm

id tell someone to learn how to dance 10 years before id tell them to do drugs...

people like rock and roll stories and dont realize that a lot of very talented musicians are ''straight edge'' in that sense...

no. do not do drugs.

live emotions.
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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by FluidMoShun » Sun May 22, 2011 7:47 pm

Ayatollah wrote:
FluidMoShun wrote: Don't use semantics to try to distort what I said. I'm not telling a 'child' to do drugs.. I'm telling a 14 year old that chemicals like thc add an interesting element to your thought process when producing. And I told him to stay away from all other drugs, including legal ones, like ADD medicine, which is for all intents and purposes, kiddie-meth.
uhh no you actually told a 14 year old "Best advice I can think to give: Do drugs and push your mind to its limits" so don't accuse me of distorting what you said cos I didn't. Not even getting into those other retarded blanket statements you made there.

(ADD medicine don't go "up your nose" btw.)
You said I told a child to do drugs, a 14 year old is not a child. How is pushing your mind to its limits not good advice? Anyways, if you could tell from the way I phrased shit in rhymes, the "retarded blanket statements" were mostly tongue in cheek jokes... I don't know how long ago you were in highschool, but I knew a hell of a lot of people that blew add meds... And you don't have to blow them to have them mess you up mentally for the rest of your life.

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by FluidMoShun » Sun May 22, 2011 7:59 pm

fragments wrote:Yea, do drugs, that is the answer...because drugs have enhanced the lives and careers of SO many creative people. Nothing ever went wrong there...nope, drugs are the reason all those people did so well.

There are many, many, many other things you can do besides drugs to expand your mind. I smoke grass. I've imbibed plenty of other chemicals as well . Ultimately none of them have inspired me. What has inspired me is experience...getting out and doing things outside your everyday experience. If you want to "think outside the box" go do things that are outside of your box.
How many creative people had their lives and careers ruined by psychedelics and pot? Coke and heroin surely have fucked people's lives up, but thats not what I'm talking about. Are you implying that I sit around and stare at walls while huffing paint or something? Everyone is under the influence of their own neurological chemicals throughout their life experience, which is what makes it so interesting. I find the combination of these with other chemicals can shed profound wisdom on things that might have just blended into greyscale in your everyday life.

If none of the chemicals you've ingested have inspired you, you're either not ingesting the right chemicals or not experiencing them the right way. Most times I trip I'll end up painting an elaborate watercolor painting with several other people, who will each work on their own ideas until it blends into one flowing masterpiece. Or going to a shpongle show on 2c-i and dancing for 5+ hours. Every new form of expression that you discover is something that will be reflected in your music, I find. I still oppose more than 90% of drugs, but psychedelics are surely the most misunderstood group of the bunch.

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Re: Changing to "original" dubstep...

Post by Ayatollah » Sun May 22, 2011 8:41 pm

FluidMoShun wrote:
Ayatollah wrote:
FluidMoShun wrote: Don't use semantics to try to distort what I said. I'm not telling a 'child' to do drugs.. I'm telling a 14 year old that chemicals like thc add an interesting element to your thought process when producing. And I told him to stay away from all other drugs, including legal ones, like ADD medicine, which is for all intents and purposes, kiddie-meth.
uhh no you actually told a 14 year old "Best advice I can think to give: Do drugs and push your mind to its limits" so don't accuse me of distorting what you said cos I didn't. Not even getting into those other retarded blanket statements you made there.

(ADD medicine don't go "up your nose" btw.)
You said I told a child to do drugs, a 14 year old is not a child. How is pushing your mind to its limits not good advice? Anyways, if you could tell from the way I phrased shit in rhymes, the "retarded blanket statements" were mostly tongue in cheek jokes... I don't know how long ago you were in highschool, but I knew a hell of a lot of people that blew add meds... And you don't have to blow them to have them mess you up mentally for the rest of your life.
look who's using semantics now. Is a 14 year old an adult then? As for "retarded blanket statements" I was mostly referring to "hallucinogenic drugs are good". Nearly all drugs can be good or bad depending on the context and setting, and no drug is for everyone.
"Pushing your mind to its limits" is such a vague sentence that it can mean almost anything, and no, in the context of drug use, and on top of it all when talking to children, it's not good advice. When you offer it as "production advice" on top of it all it just becomes ludicrous.

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