Feedback NEEDED!

[Subsidize Dubstep]

Im an amateur dubstep producer from utah in the states. Ive gotten my tunes promoted and even played on the internet radio before. But the matter of the fact is...I could be sooooo much better, I just dont exactly know how to improve
I have a favor to ask of you who like heavy robotic filth to give me some feedback. and I need it to be honest yet creative. (dont say "its gay" or "it sucks, just tell me what to add, change, and/or keep. also tell me what I'm doing wrong, is it my flow? bass sounds? beats?)
I've somewhat found my dubstep style, just need to tweak it. and this will be great help, thanks!

Heres my soundcloud:
http://soundcloud.com/subsidize

[snypadub]

All I can say is practice practice practice. Get to know your Daw, read the production forum thoughroughly and you will be on the right track in no time.

You say you are finding your own sound and, if that is the case theb brilliant however, I noticed your mention of the whole robot thing.
Without getting into the subject too much I would like to ask you to look around this forum (not just dubs section but elsewhere to). Notice anything? Hopefully you have seen that there is more of those robot noises and stuff of a similar nature than anything else here! This means that the sounds aren't particularly unique or special.

Try not to follow styles, instead use them as inspirational starting points for your own unique creations. Don't stick to one thing either, experiment a lot. Sometimes it will work and others, it won't.

Save every noise you make as a preset. If it doesn't work in one track it might in another. Spend a day just making noises without the intention of making a track, you will then have some ammunition.

Spread your wings mate. Put everything you have into it and one day, who knows, Joe nice might spin your dubs

[Subsidize Dubstep]

Thanks for the feedback mate, I really appreciate it. I mean yeah I'm trying to find my own sound and all, (and I did have a bass sound that I did call my own at one point. It was robotic, heavy, and filthy. The thing was, it's just that it was more simple then I would have wanted it to be.) But I want to sound somewhat like Davr or even C99, cause those guys are nuts. They use noises that are so robotic that it pushes me to make more sounds. I've spent a WHOLE day just fiddling around with massive, just TRYING to make sounds that sound like them. But with my old bass sound, it was original (which is more then half of the reason why I liked it so much). Another problem I have with that sound, I want to change things up a bit, keep the listener on the edge yuh know?
If you do infact want to hear what the bass sound sounds like, listen to this track. I ONLY used that one bass sound.

Soundcloud

[snypadub]

Right, before I start, I wanna clarify that this type of music is really not my thing so there is a slight bias but I shall try and be as constructive as I can:

Try automating the oscilations on the growly bass so it is playing at different rates, this will really help give the track variation and character.

Spend ages layering drums. All to often percussion becomes less important for producers but I want you to work with the attitude that percussion is the most important thing in the world. Perc gives the track rythm, shape and character and you should spend more time on this (imho) than anything else. Layer every bit of midrange with a simple sin in the c3 (ish) regions so you have some weighty sub to back up the growls. Your synth sounds good.

The thing that is so good about making dubstep is that the tempo gives you loads of room to work with. this doesn't mean all that space needs filling. Try stripping your productions down to a real minimalistic track with loads of lovely atmospheric space. Use reverb and make sure you eq ur layered drums plenty so they don't all compete for headroom.

I would strongly advise you go out there and listen to different kinds of bass music to give yourself a really rounded view of the style (might also throw up some new influences).

I'm going to link a few tracks in here to give you a starting point for finding new music:


These guys pretty much invented dubstep (not quite but pretty much), they are masters at music production and a great starting point to grasp how a solid track is structured. They use loads of movie samples and stuff like that which not only sounds great, but is also a lot of fun to work with.

Rob is a legend, he makes some great tearout music but is a good example of an artist who varies his sounds all the time. Sparx makes both intense midrange dancefloor smashers and deep rolling sub tracks.

Example of someone working in the dubstep tempo but making unique and interesting sounds.

I'd also reccomend you listen to a shit tonne of mixes: Google the boiler room and listen to some of the sets on there, you will find some truly inspirational bass music in there.

Don't be affraid to let go of the whole robot thing. I know it is what's in at the minute but beleive me, it is just a fad and there is so much more to dubstep than that.

The best producers I have ever encountered are the ones who make every tune sound totaly different from the last and bring new and unique sounds to the table. Experiment experiment experiment. Don't worry about making mistakes, it may lead to the best sound you have ever heard!

[jsaxton]

along with snypa id say explore the greater spectrum, take ideas from tracks you wouldnt normally expect to hear in dubstep.
also listening to alot of El-B helps.