is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?

VirtualMark · Post by **VirtualMark** » Tue May 31, 2011 12:12 am

hey, i was wondering what everyone does when using vocals. i'm not from a musical background and the music side of things is what i struggle with most. so when adding vocals i have no idea what notes they're in. any advice on this?

amphibian · Post by **amphibian** » Tue May 31, 2011 12:20 am

play some notes on a piano until it sounds like it's in key

this only comes with practise and training your ear.

dubesteppe · Post by **dubesteppe** » Tue May 31, 2011 1:35 am

an eisier way would be with a program that can detect the tune of it. melodyne works well

amidoinitrite · Post by **amidoinitrite** » Tue May 31, 2011 2:01 am

Rapid Evolution?

djdawson · Post by **djdawson** » Tue May 31, 2011 2:42 am

You can do this easily in fl studio. You have to load the vocals in edison, then find the dump score to piano. It will then try to put the vocals into single notes on the piano roll. You can then open up the notes, and see what scale the vocals are in, everything after that is easy

ajfa · Post by **ajfa** » Tue May 31, 2011 3:09 am

If you can't work out what key an acapella is in.... You prob should work on some 'real' music as practice first, otherwise you'll probably end up making atonal crap. IMO... Once you've trained your ear a little, figuring out the key using a piano will take you a matter of seconds.

MikkiFunk · Post by **MikkiFunk** » Tue May 31, 2011 4:11 am

I'm not sure if it determines the exact key of the vocal as some vocals are in 1 or 2 different keys but... Get a string preset up, play in a higher register like 3rd or 4th octave up your keyboard, and find the note that you can play all the way through the vocal, or the original track, without going 'out of key'. Whatever note that is I guess would be the key of the vocal.

benjam · Post by **benjam** » Tue May 31, 2011 10:31 am

Just google it, for example : lady gaga just dance tempo key
It came up as first result

FuzionDubstep · Post by **FuzionDubstep** » Tue May 31, 2011 1:24 pm

I have a program called 'mixedinkey' you basically add a folder or file to it and it tells you the key for all of them and also allows you to change the key

VirtualMark · Post by **VirtualMark** » Tue May 31, 2011 1:52 pm

hey thanks for the replies. i've used some of the software mentioned but i was never too sure how accurate they were. sounds like i'm kinda on the right track from the suggestions here, hopefully my ear will develop and i'll be able to tell easier.

Sparxy · Post by **Sparxy** » Tue May 31, 2011 2:17 pm

Just use your ears! If your note sounds the same as the vocal, then it is. It really is that simple... is it not??

victor w · Post by **victor w** » Tue May 31, 2011 5:40 pm

everyone's given good advice above ie play notes on your piano or searching google, but to be honest if it's a bit of a task to find the key by yourself, you probably shouldn't be doing any remixes until your ears are more trained. if in fact you are doing a remix or anything like that.

VirtualMark · Post by **VirtualMark** » Tue May 31, 2011 7:21 pm

actually i find remixing way easier than producing my own tracks. its just when i use vocals on their own its sometimes hard to fit them in so they sound good. practice practice lol

Rekah · Post by **Rekah** » Tue May 31, 2011 7:30 pm

could you use a tuner like the 1 thats built into logic? ive used it on other musical things on it works fine ive not tried it on vocals though

VirtualMark · Post by **VirtualMark** » Tue May 31, 2011 8:04 pm

actually i think i downloaded a guitar tuning vst a while back, i'll give that a go

Rekah · Post by **Rekah** » Tue May 31, 2011 8:12 pm

yeah thats the same thing i think mate, i dont know why i didnt just try it myself and tell you haha

Rekah · Post by **Rekah** » Tue May 31, 2011 8:17 pm

it tells you all the notes thats being hit but you can work out whats the key of that i think or i may be wrong in saying this, isnt the key the root note of whats being picked up the most, in the acapella i used mainly G carried on coming up prominently between all the other notes

i hope this makes sense i need to stop replying when ive been drinking and smoking as nothing that i write seems to make sense to me

zerbaman · Post by **zerbaman** » Tue May 31, 2011 8:24 pm

Does key make any difference?
I mean, if you're uninspired, knowing what key it's in wouldn't really fix that would it?

VirtualMark · Post by **VirtualMark** » Tue May 31, 2011 8:40 pm

well surely i'd need to know the key of the vocals so i know what notes i can use with it?

3za · Post by **3za** » Tue May 31, 2011 8:48 pm

VirtualMark wrote:well surely i'd need to know the key of the vocals so i know what notes i can use with it?

Yeah that how music works

P.S. If you can't remix like these guys, don't fucking bother...

P.P.S. Use your ears.

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