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Re: As you get better...

Post by symmetricalsounds » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:37 pm

Ldizzy wrote: just take a look at the first reflex ur having, and ask urself if that reflex is the only way to do what ur about to do...
in the words of oblique strategies

what would you not do?

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Re: As you get better...

Post by drake89 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:26 pm

nowaysj wrote:Sound is 10000000x more complicated than we think it is. Music 100000000000x that. You'll always be chasing something. Sound and music are beyond human comprehension, everything we do is an approximation.
:corncry:

you've got to be shitting me. we.invented.music.

not
beyond
our understanding :a:

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Re: As you get better...

Post by GRAYSKALE » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:18 pm

drake89 wrote:
nowaysj wrote:Sound is 10000000x more complicated than we think it is. Music 100000000000x that. You'll always be chasing something. Sound and music are beyond human comprehension, everything we do is an approximation.
:corncry:

you've got to be shitting me. we.invented.music.

not
beyond
our understanding :a:
we also invented god :lol:

[which is, by definition, beyond our understanding]

EDIT: We also never invented sound, without which there would be no music at all. Definitely beyond our comprehension.

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Re: As you get better...

Post by FuzionDubstep » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:07 pm

drake89 wrote:
nowaysj wrote:Sound is 10000000x more complicated than we think it is. Music 100000000000x that. You'll always be chasing something. Sound and music are beyond human comprehension, everything we do is an approximation.
:corncry:

you've got to be shitting me. we.invented.music.

not
beyond
our understanding :a:
sound is one of the most complex things in the world, we will never truly understand it.. we make predictions on frequencies and levels but maybe were missing something... hmm makes ya think

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Re: As you get better...

Post by Ldizzy » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:46 am

add me on the Music goes beyond what we can fully conceive..

inventing is just a fancy word for putting a couple discoveries together...
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Re: As you get better...

Post by 5qu1dfacekilla » Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:25 am

Toric wrote: The "any sound that's in your head" kind of deal, is a bit over rated, I think. Most of the sounds in your head, you've already heard before somewhere. If you just let yourself be creative, and not worry about a certain sound, you may just come up with something WAY cooler!

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Re: As you get better...

Post by Manic Harmonic » Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:55 am

I would say music theory wise, if you learn it enough and develop an ear for it, you know, creating the melodies you come up with and all that (if you can remember them :/), yes 99%, except for occasionally complex chord progressions. For me at least. Not to sound like I'm bragging or anything but I think most artists that know there music theory it becomes second nature. And production and synthesis wise, not for me, but I've been producing for about 4 years, which isn't much in the grand scheme of things, and I've just recently been getting into that. But I will echo what others have said. I learn something new in some way, shape, or form, in any song i do.
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Re: As you get better...

Post by Basic A » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:51 pm

FuzionDubstep wrote:
sound is one of the most complex things in the world, we will never truly understand it.. we make predictions on frequencies and levels but maybe were missing something... hmm makes ya think
Okay this part is a total crock though.

'We make predictions on frequencies'

No we dont. You load a 40hz sine wave up and play it, its going to cycle 40 times a second. Frequency just means how frequently do things cycle.

The whole music extends beyond the realm of theory part of what nowaysj said, totally true, theory fails to explain alot. But Fuzion... you need to read more about the science of sound, I fear you dont even know what frequency means.
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Re: As you get better...

Post by jrisreal » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:02 pm

GRAYSKALE wrote:we also invented god :lol:
no we didn't, God invented us.
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Re: As you get better...

Post by Ayatollah » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:25 pm

oh come on don't derail this with theology now

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Post by hutyluty » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:48 pm

jrisreal wrote:
GRAYSKALE wrote:we also invented god :lol:
no we didn't, God invented us.
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Re: As you get better...

Post by Electric_Head » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:50 am

jrisreal wrote:
GRAYSKALE wrote:we also invented god :lol:
no we didn't, God invented us.
Let`s not start this debate.
We invented Language, we invented the word God.
We invented God, period.
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Re: As you get better...

Post by Electric_Head » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:58 am

on-topic though,

I think this drive to create every sound you hear can be incredibly limiting to the actual process of producing music.
The music is key.
You can make a mish-mash of synthesized sound that is an exact replica of another sound you`ve heard but are you actually using any of the resulting sounds in the context of a song?
If you are then more power to you but if you`re spending months creating sounds over actually writing music, you`ll find yourself stuck in a production mode that you might not be able to get out of.

You need to find balance between the 2.
Create the sound and immediately try to use it or a similar sound in the context of a track or loop.
Keep creating music and you`ll progress faster musically imo.
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Re: As you get better...

Post by Moody Strings » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:52 am

What you're hearing in your head is probably a subconscious pattern that already exists. Just experiment a little and see if you can make something fantastic a long the way.

Once you get music theory down -- Chord, Scales, Intervals -- you'll grasp a better understand of how producers piece their music together.

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Re: As you get better...

Post by Ldizzy » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:07 pm

to me the sounds that anyone create are as real as organic sounds found in nature... they exist. period.

now lets make some beats.
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Re: As you get better...

Post by Mannyyyyy » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:16 pm

I think my problem is I can't get great sounds. the problem I feel is either arrnging baselines to be rhymetic or fucking being to generic. but overall back on topic you never stop learning ever. one day you'll think you have it and bam new techniques and ideas appear
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Re: As you get better...

Post by jrisreal » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:52 pm

Mannyyyyy wrote:I think my problem is I can get great sounds.
last I checked, this aint a problem :lol:
Your problem is getting your tunes to have melody. which isn't necessary for your style, though.
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