Reason vs Ableton

[Foreplay]

I want some opinions in here, I've been an Ableton user and im thinking about switching it up a little and buying Reason 5. What are some features that make either of them better/worse? What program would you use if you had to pick one?

[blinx]

I have used both and will not touch reason like um ever again. But i use ableton in the studio and in live settings playing out. Ableton is a true DAW and Reason is like a Pseudo DAW until you buy Record. Just my opinions though.

[traffek]

i loved reason. its what i learned in. its a great tool for midi. and great to learn(repeating myself i know).

the subtracktor is still a great synth IMO. i love skream distortion and have still yet to find anything similar. i use to build a synth in reason or sometimes use some stock sounds and effect them, and then bounce them into ableton.

i mainly use ableton now, because i am using a decent amount of vsts and i can control my audio(in wave form). i have not tried the new reason with record and would like to see that in action. but i do feel reason is not good for me personally with how i like to build a track visually.

do remember, you dont just have to use one program. do not ever limit yourself with stuff like that. i picked up logic about a month back to try out and i like it but not a fan of the workflow in it. Ionno. everything has pros and cons. just use it to what you need out of it.

hope that helps

[Aphile]

They are both as powerful as you make them. If your synthesis game needs an extra boost, reason might be your answer. But there's free VST's for that. I started in Reason and moved onto Ableton, but if you knew your software you would know that you could run both together, and purchasing reason would have no drawbacks for you as its 100% ReWire compatible with Ableton.

With that said, Ableton is everything you need in a DAW(period)

[FuzionDubstep]

I have used both, Reason wins by far fucking love reason so much the fact you can just route everything up fairly easily is brilliant can't explain my love for reason!

[Foreplay]

I have used both, Reason wins by far fucking love reason so much the fact you can just route everything up fairly easily is brilliant can't explain my love for reason!

I've toyed around on reason a few times, all that wiring and shit seems a little complicated for my liking.

[-[2]DAY_-]

the wiring is just routing. You can do the simplest or the craziest shit... point is, you decide. It helped me learn the fundamentals of signal flow, since it looks like hardware.

as stated above, you won't regret getting and learning it because any DAW you move onto ought to be ReWire capable. ReWire is very easy. Just select "Reason out L&R" as the input for an aux track in your DAW, and you can then hear Reason coming through your DAW mix. select the same reason outs as the input of an audio track, click record, and it will print reason output to an audio track. Mono or stereo. You can also rewire several channels at once all in one pass.

Reason is basically a disgustingly powerful VSTi with something like 32 multi outs, a dedicated MIDI sequencer, and the option to run standalone.

It does not have audio tracking or editing capability.
It isnt a DAW.


thats why this is apples vs. oranges.

[press]

not had much use with ableton but i do love me soem reason, even when i thought i was done with it i came back and still rewire it, thats my advice if your cpu can handle rewiring why not have the best of both worlds? nnot sure id wanna go back to 100% reason, too many vsts i like now though.

[Foreplay]

the wiring is just routing. You can do the simplest or the craziest shit... point is, you decide. It helped me learn the fundamentals of signal flow, since it looks like hardware.

as stated above, you won't regret getting and learning it because any DAW you move onto ought to be ReWire capable. ReWire is very easy. Just select "Reason out L&R" as the input for an aux track in your DAW, and you can then hear Reason coming through your DAW mix. select the same reason outs as the input of an audio track, click record, and it will print reason output to an audio track. Mono or stereo. You can also rewire several channels at once all in one pass.

Reason is basically a disgustingly powerful VSTi with something like 32 multi outs, a dedicated MIDI sequencer, and the option to run standalone.

It does not have audio tracking or editing capability.
It isnt a DAW.


thats why this is apples vs. oranges.

I see.

[lyons238]

i love reason as well...

but dude u do realize that MANY people use reason and rewire it to ableton right? many producers like to use reason to get ideas down or use it for its synths and stuff. you could buy it and pretty much use it like a plugin and still use ableton for mixing and mastering and editing audio. unless of coarse you get record like i did...

[Foreplay]

i love reason as well...

but dude u do realize that MANY people use reason and rewire it to ableton right? many producers like to use reason to get ideas down or use it for its synths and stuff. you could buy it and pretty much use it like a plugin and still use ableton for mixing and mastering and editing audio. unless of coarse you get record like i did...

How's record treating you?

[lyons238]

i love reason as well...

but dude u do realize that MANY people use reason and rewire it to ableton right? many producers like to use reason to get ideas down or use it for its synths and stuff. you could buy it and pretty much use it like a plugin and still use ableton for mixing and mastering and editing audio. unless of coarse you get record like i did...

How's record treating you?

i fucking love it. speeds up my work flow. the ssl mixer is the absolute tits. full screen is nice. and i can finally work with audio. it really just makes reason feel complete. very happy with the purchase. and yeah my thought process is pretty robotic right now lol...its been a long hungover day working.

[Foreplay]

i love reason as well...

but dude u do realize that MANY people use reason and rewire it to ableton right? many producers like to use reason to get ideas down or use it for its synths and stuff. you could buy it and pretty much use it like a plugin and still use ableton for mixing and mastering and editing audio. unless of coarse you get record like i did...

How's record treating you?

i fucking love it. speeds up my work flow. the ssl mixer is the absolute tits. full screen is nice. and i can finally work with audio. it really just makes reason feel complete. very happy with the purchase. and yeah my thought process is pretty robotic right now lol...its been a long hungover day working.

Sounds great, might be worth looking into.

[lyons238]

i love reason as well...

but dude u do realize that MANY people use reason and rewire it to ableton right? many producers like to use reason to get ideas down or use it for its synths and stuff. you could buy it and pretty much use it like a plugin and still use ableton for mixing and mastering and editing audio. unless of coarse you get record like i did...

How's record treating you?

i fucking love it. speeds up my work flow. the ssl mixer is the absolute tits. full screen is nice. and i can finally work with audio. it really just makes reason feel complete. very happy with the purchase. and yeah my thought process is pretty robotic right now lol...its been a long hungover day working.

Sounds great, might be worth looking into.

yeah dude i really love how its layed out. the mixer is an emulated ssl mixer and u can have unlimited tracks and scroll all around the mixer. if u watch a video on it youll see what im talking about. but i rly love how it makes reason full screen and u can have your rack 2 plugins wide. and u use hot keys to switch from rack view, to mixer, to sequencer. just that feature really speeds up my work flow.

[MoonUnit]

ableton kids go to bed its past your bedtime. now us adults can use reason in peace.
hahahahhaa just kidding. Reason 5 is awesome though, KONG is siiiiiick.
but honestly if you have both and rewire them, there isn't a better combo

[Neds Newt]

I rewire Reason into Ableton too, haha.

[dogmancar]

I love reason passionately because it is a great tool for learning and understanding synthesis and it makes production easy and natural... However soon I'll be adding ableton to my studio and once I get used to it I'll probably just use reason for some drums, some synths, and brain storming. Reason just doesn't go nearly deep enough into detail. I't doesn't allow for precision mixing, mastering, or EQing, and using vocal samples can be a mess.

[Sine69]

I've toyed around with reason a little, and I really just can't stand the interface. Everything feels really cluttered and messy to me. With Ableton it's really easy for me to keep everything organised, which is one of the reasons why I love it

[dogmancar]

I've toyed around with reason a little, and I really just can't stand the interface. Everything feels really cluttered and messy to me. With Ableton it's really easy for me to keep everything organised, which is one of the reasons why I love it

I agree. Reason can be very. Again love the synths, but again hate the messiness.

[Ayatollah]

I have used both and will not touch reason like um ever again. But i use ableton in the studio and in live settings playing out. Ableton is a true DAW and Reason is like a Pseudo DAW until you buy Record. Just my opinions though.

this. I started with Reason and then moved on to Ableton. Never looked back. I'm not dising, I know it's a beast. But personally I don't like it. I tried to rewire in the beginning but Reason's interface is just not for me...