Lulzsec vs 4chan (anon)

[bluntiot]

thank you

[deadly_habit]

heh i should check those old zines since i know a few jacked some pbx articles back when that i wrote
phreaking was always so fun to me vs cracking
then once i learned asm and shit went cell phone...
i miss telneting into tomra bottle machines
quick cash lol

[pompende]

Lulzsec just farewell'd a few minuted ago.

laaaaaaaame.
so do yall think they got a plea bargain? just got scared of the heat?
the timing makes it seem like jester actually got the IP for their site...its still up tho

heh i should check those old zines since i know a few jacked some pbx articles back when that i wrote
phreaking was always so fun to me vs cracking
then once i learned asm and shit went cell phone...
i miss telneting into tomra bottle machines
quick cash lol

:Q:s to you sir

[deadly_habit]

lulzsec was a public cracking group imo, with twitter
nothing of value was lost imo
the real guys keep doing what they do, but at least now there is a public awareness of how shitty major corp and govt security is, when a bunch of 12 yr old attn whores can crack thru shit script kiddie wise
the real hackers and crackers will stay at it
the kids with low orbit ion will follow /b/ bs
the way i look at is is at least some of the companies and govt have learned maybe instead of dlc or war on drugs they should invest in decent comp security and encrytion
which is a good thing
get with the digital age already
sony pointed out alot, the rest these guys did was just being self righteous assholes showing they had a mini army imo
the fact newspaper and media regard them for most part as hackers made me realize why media should not report on the internet

[deadly_habit]

this shit reminds me of being a 4chan user, but walking by some tard irl with a v for vendetta mask (guy fawkes mask) holding some anti scientology sign on a corner of a town with no scientology presence and shaking my head
amazing how saying rule 1 and 2 joking to him meant nothing
internet revolutions are worth nothing

[pkay]

DOS aside they got info from some pretty major sources.

The amount of money they cost Sony was enough to cause trouble in multiple international stock markets.

[wormcode]

what was that one website's name, cult of the sacred cow or something, they had lots of phreaking stuff and fringe shit fuck somebody help me remember its just an archive now i think

cDc has been making a comeback of sorts along with the L0pht (@Stake).
#2600 is still active on IRC, but phreaking is nearly dead yeah, at least in its original form. Haven't read the magazine in years.
Also, phonelosers.org used to be the place to be for trolling phone systems in the 90s. Some funny memories.

[knell]

good riddance to them

[pompende]

good riddance to them

even if these guys and gal did everything out of a narcissistic desire for fame, they have accomplished their stated goals to some degree...
i think this sums things up pretty well:

the way i look at is is at least some of the companies and govt have learned maybe instead of dlc or war on drugs they should invest in decent comp security and encrytion
which is a good thing
get with the digital age already
sony pointed out alot, the rest these guys did was just being self righteous assholes showing they had a mini army imo

altho they were, as far as i can tell, fully aware that what they were doing wasnt complex... in any case thats whats made them famous: making it clear that many places you trust with your data are easily compromised.

also i feel that this has all allowed me a fascinating glimpse into script kiddie culture.

[knell]

they have accomplished their stated goals to some degree...

i hope exposing security problems for attention was their goal, because in that case they succeeded. i laughed with them when they were taking on white hat security firms and making them look silly, but making thousands of people's personal data public domain, when they weren't asking for it... and without responsible disclosure? they go against everything most of the hacker culture stands for, with a healthy dose of narcissism.

petty thieves, not talented hackers.

[deadly_habit]

i wouldn't even call the majority of the shit they did hacking
they're attention whores plain and simple

[pompende]

i hope exposing security problems for attention was their goal, because in that case they succeeded.

you are agreeing with me. you just knee-jerked on that without reading my post. its late at night for you tho so im not mad.
and yes i know its 11:30 for you.

i wouldn't even call the majority of the shit they did hacking
they're attention whores plain and simple

for sure. and, again, that's the point, afaik. they did shit that basically anyone could do.

[knell]

i hope exposing security problems for attention was their goal, because in that case they succeeded.

you are agreeing with me. you just knee-jerked on that without reading my post. its late at night for you tho so im not mad.

i was adding to the discussion... not trying to counter you. sorry about that. in retrospect i can see why my post was confusing for you.

[pompende]

ohhhh my bust. i guess i did a knee-jerk myself then didnt i?

blup blup!

[knell]

no i don't think so, i'm just horrible at portraying my tone online. i don't blame you at all! my mistake

[deadly_habit]

the whole releasing everyone's details was what managed to irk the shit out of me
HEY WE'RE ANTI CORPORATION ETC, BUT IF YOU USE THEIR SERVICE AND HAPPENED TO USE A CREDIT CARD WITH EM WE'RE SHARING ALL YOUR INFO TO THE PUBLIC DOMAIN AND INCONVENIENCING MORE THAN JUST THE CORP/COMPANY WE CRACKED
LULZ

[pompende]

wooord.
i guess the question is: can you bring public awareness to security flaws without leaking sensitive data like that? ... i mean they have to be able to prove that they have actually acquired this data in some way....and it has to grab people's attention...
im not implying that lulzsec's approach is the only one. i just honestly cant see a way around that dilemma...

[bigfootspartan]

wooord.
i guess the question is: can you bring public awareness to security flaws without leaking sensitive data like that? ... i mean they have to be able to prove that they have actually acquired this data in some way....and it has to grab people's attention...
im not implying that lulzsec's approach is the only one. i just honestly cant see a way around that dilemma...

That depends. I know that quite a bit of the time news articles here will comment about people having their information compromised, even if it isn't leaked out to everyone on the internet. For example, when our Alberta Health Records were compromised the news article would say something like "Your Health Records May Have Been Compromised" even though the health records weren't actually posted for everyone to see.

However, if the company isn't a public one (take Sony for example) it will often times take a few days for them to admit a security breach. But they usually admit there's a security breach in the end. I think the main reason they did it was just to distinguish themselves from the others, so they could get the media attention they wanted. It's quite often that personal privacy is breached, it's not very often when that gets posted all around the internet, which is why they caught everyones attention.

[knell]

wooord.
i guess the question is: can you bring public awareness to security flaws without leaking sensitive data like that? ... i mean they have to be able to prove that they have actually acquired this data in some way....and it has to grab people's attention...
im not implying that lulzsec's approach is the only one. i just honestly cant see a way around that dilemma...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsible_disclosure

[brettheaslewood]

what was there final leak?
as the P/B link has been removed.