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FM8

Post by roki263 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:30 pm

Has anyone here mastered the way that this impossible synth is used? Is so, how did you do it, and how long did it take you?

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Re: FM8

Post by -hooky- » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:09 pm

I would advise reading the manual (it literally has everything in there), or youtube tutorials

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Re: FM8

Post by press » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:46 pm

nope, it gets intense, i generally tweak the easy mode paramaters and am able to get some nice unique shit out of it.
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Re: FM8

Post by roki263 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:38 pm

Not a single FM8 tutorial that's actually effective exists.

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Re: FM8

Post by GothamHero » Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:45 pm

Not even Chris Lake has mastered that synth yet.

I would suggest reading the manual intensively, so you can get an overall understanding of the interface; and looking up general synthesizer tutorials for applicable knowledge.
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Re: FM8

Post by .onelove. » Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:59 pm

Lol try Absynth, even though I'm going through a tutorial it's still an absolute nightmare.

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Re: FM8

Post by Eridu » Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:12 pm

you could try using it like a regular synth, to learn the envelopes, filter and stuff. Ignore the fm ratio`s and just use the oscliators like you would on a normal subtractive synth then when you are ready, enter the matrix...

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Re: FM8

Post by Nyyx » Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:03 pm

I downloaded the demo and shat my pants.
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Re: FM8

Post by RandoRando » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:40 pm

once you understand what everything does, its not hard.

getting good sounds is all about experimentation

fyi, the filters suck
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Re: FM8

Post by mekha » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:14 am

It's really easy to use if you RTFM. It has a very clever routing matrix to get some sweet sound business going on but I must say it might scare some people on it's first look.

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Re: FM8

Post by mekha » Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:04 pm

RandoRando wrote:fyi, the filters suck
No sense.

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Re: FM8

Post by legend4ry » Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:44 pm

Read the manual, then this..




FM Synthesis

Question regarding sound design in FM synthesis - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=197742
Getting Your Head Around FM Synthesis. - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=193998
The secrets of synthesis - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=193145
Percussion Synthesis - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=192485
for anyone wanting to learn basics of FM synthesis... - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=190713
What would be your perfect synthesis method? - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=189103
Thoughts on FM8 synthesis - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=188060
Synthesis - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=186489
Granular synthesis... - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=185040
drone synthesis/sources - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=178240
Sampling vs synthesis - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=175313
3d Wave Terrain Synthesis??? - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=172644
Great beginners introduction to synthesis - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=169108
Synthesis Tutorials - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=155864

FM Synthesis continued

How to get FM synthesis out of Massive? - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=145053
Synkro - Angels, lead sound synthesis? - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=145035
Essential Synthesis Part 1: Synth Noise Effects (tuts+) - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=142498
No more free copy of "Sound Synthesis with VSTi" - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=119988
Good (And Easy) VST for FM Synthesis? - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=113509
I'm hearing this alot latley in wobbles (fm synthesis) - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=111464
speech synthesis - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=100573
When do you turn to fm synthesis? - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=99285
What's Your Favourite Synthesis Type? - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=88908
FM synthesis tutorials - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=82523
guide to analogue synthesis - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=77238
FM synthesis - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=76199
LAYERING SYNTHESIS - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=68769
Synthesis - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=67602
Grain Synthesis - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=47801
granular synthesis - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=41075
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Re: FM8

Post by RandoRando » Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:32 am

mekha wrote:
RandoRando wrote:fyi, the filters suck
No sense.
Makes no sense? Have you used FM8? they barely alter the sound and whAt they do doesn't really sound like anything, at least that's my experience with them and I've heard the same from other people to. Unless I'm not usig them effectively
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Re: FM8

Post by Brisance » Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:05 am

read how FM works and it suddenly becomes easy.

The key to good sound is subtle modulation.

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Re: FM8

Post by Volento » Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:41 pm

It's really easy to use. Retardedly easy. Read the manual and then study up on some FM synthesis.

Though I like Blue by Rob Papen much more. Does FM and wavetable with an interface that I can dig more. Give it a shot.

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Re: FM8

Post by 3za » Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:49 pm

RandoRando wrote:
mekha wrote:
RandoRando wrote:fyi, the filters suck
No sense.
Makes no sense? Have you used FM8? they barely alter the sound and whAt they do doesn't really sound like anything, at least that's my experience with them and I've heard the same from other people to. Unless I'm not usig them effectively
They are quite vanilla imo, but they do work, and can sweep from fully open to closed.

You most have the outputs/routing setup in away that it's not doing much.
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Re: FM8

Post by mekha » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:04 am

RandoRando wrote:
mekha wrote:
RandoRando wrote:fyi, the filters suck
No sense.
Makes no sense? Have you used FM8? they barely alter the sound and whAt they do doesn't really sound like anything, at least that's my experience with them and I've heard the same from other people to. Unless I'm not usig them effectively
Yes, that makes no sense.
Are you sure you are routing the operators to the filter correctly?

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Re: FM8

Post by Manic Harmonic » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:25 am

I've had trouble with it too, especially the filters. If i use an lfo on the modulator going to the carrier it sounds ok, but if i put a filter envelope or a low pass with lfo after anything, I can barely hear any filtering on the sound. Maybe i should send the modulator to the filter instead of the carrier? Carrier is the one that is affected by the modulator right?
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Re: FM8

Post by RandoRando » Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:56 am

Manic Harmonic wrote:I've had trouble with it too, especially the filters. If i use an lfo on the modulator going to the carrier it sounds ok, but if i put a filter envelope or a low pass with lfo after anything, I can barely hear any filtering on the sound. Maybe i should send the modulator to the filter instead of the carrier? Carrier is the one that is affected by the modulator right?
this is what happens to me, what i usually have done is send the carrier to the filter and the filter out the the main, that is interesting what you said though manic, send the modulator through the filter, i can deff see some nice movement in a bassline coming from that, gonna try it now!
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