Antidepressants

[Sheff]

i can relate to whoever said that smoking weed all the time leads you to a "meh" outlook on everything

everyday just seemed like one big boring hazy dream, had no motivation to do anything, got lazy as fuck
ive smoked with people long enough to know that it can seriously change people for the worst an fuck people up

then again though that was back in the day when an 8th a day was normal..
8th a week should be alright, but just stop for a couple of weeks and see if you feel better for it. theres a good chance you will

[Crosby]

Stop all drugs like weed, alcohol, caffeine, start regularly exercising, and try to get better sleep

[psychedelicatessen]

I really hate to say it, but if all else fails, sometimes one just needs a swift kick in the ass to get them going. I was severely depressed for over a year, and what finally helped me was for my lady to tell me to suck up, keep my chin up and do something about it. It was the hardest thing I've ever done, but I am so happy to be alive today. There's been a lot of good advice in here, and definitely do some sessions with a counsellor, talk to a doctor, or two if you can, and listen to what everyone has to say in this thread, and ultimately you can decide what's good for you.
Best of luck to you mate.

[test_recordings]

Also, as dodgy as it sounds a one off session of some light LSD or mushrooms might help (MDMA as well but you might end up feeling lower than before if you take too much)...

Check it out: http://www.maps.org/home/

I'm lining up a walkabout to refresh my mind soon

[Gewze]

Yeah if you smoke on the regs then defo defo defo stop. I used to smoke a lot... and basically felt exactly as you're describing, just 'meh' about everything.

After stopping smoking, everything is better (imo), generally feel much 'clearer', and have motivation to do things.

'meh' sums up my feelings atm, i may need to cut down

[wobbles]

Stop smoking weed.

[dreamizm]

we all go through this, especially those who've been long term herbalists.

[magma]

Don't take anti-depressants lightly... they can be life-savers (literally), but they also have a nasty habit of making you a bit passive... still lacking motivation to do stuff, but no longer letting it bother you.

My lady was on the Prozacs for a year or so... was difficult starting and difficult coming off, but definitely helped her overall. The intervening time was an odd time to be a boyfriend though... used to get into the flat and find her sitting on the bed staring at the wall...

"How long have you been sat there?"
"Err" *checks watch "Christ, about 4 hours."

They helped her find her route through her problems, but they weren't the solution themselves... tread carefully.

Exercise definitely helps keep my motivation up. I haven't moved my gym membership since starting a new job and I'm getting lazy as fuck... oh, and socialising breeds socialising. The less I do, the less I want to do... the more I make myself do, the less I have to make myself...

BRAIYNZ

[dreamizm]

Any1 tried/any luck with 5HTP?

Sure there has been a few threads on it here before...

[Electric_Head]

I am a regular smoker to say the least.
If I start getting down I get outside into the sun.
I`ll go play some tennis with my son.
Or go play some cricket.
I always feel great after 2-3 hours of sun and sport.

[d-T-r]

Maybe try St Johns wort and other herbal remedies to begin with if you are gonna seek medication.

Approach the situation holistically.

Address all areas of your life... diet and sleeping patterns (and amounts of sleep) are major psychological influences ...find out what vitamins you may be in need of too.

eat 'happy' foods.

Make the time , and take the steps whenever you can to find inspiration...whether it be through music, art, sport.

most importantly, 'face what consumes you ' and aim to treat the root of the cause rather than the symptoms, no matter how much of an uphill struggle it may seem at times.

remember that , 'this too shall pass'

[bagelator]

The thing is I dont feel depressed, at least not in the sense that you imagine depressed people to be in...or at least i dont think I am. Life isnt that bad, ive got good people around me and reasons to be happy but I feel im often a pessimist and that brings my mood down. I just want to know what its like to have a more positive attitude and a vibrant outlook.

You probably think i should just man up and based on what i just said above i probably proved antidepressants arent my answer. I think onelove has made some very good points which highlight some of my apprehensions but im wondering if trying this as a different perspective on life could be benificial.

Positive thinking for some reason isnt always easy but i think quitting weed is definitely a good start.

go for a run. take up a physically active hobby.

[particle-jim]

girl i was with for about 3 years ended up on antidepressants, it completely fucked with her head, she just wasnt the same girl afterwards and everything broke down as a result... fuck antidepressants, i was asked if i wanted to go on them after i dropped out of uni coz of depression but after seeing what they did to her i decided i'm better off trying to improve my life for myself without the 'help' of chemicals

[nousd]

I just want to know what its like to have a more positive attitude and a vibrant outlook.

I'm not you but I've always considered you a rational, considerate ninja.
I believe you are entitled to believe the same.
Being rational is a positive.
Being considerate is a positive.
Having considered these aspects of yourself as possible is positive.
Offering your opinions to the world is positive.
Engaging with us, with me, is positive.
As for vibrancy...that's for others to judge...but can you be any more alive than you are now?
Should you spend more time in the present & less in contemplating your depression?
Could you spend more time working out how to inspire me with your beautiful existence?
Are you able to sit with yourself, stretch & relax with yoga or such and direct the energy release outwardly?
Rise from the flat plains by making hills out of your gifts...take joy from small offerings...delight from reciever's pleasure?
Inhale breath from air, establish stability from earth, ride flux from water, draw inspiration from fire?
Simplicity from a simple life, intrigue from a complex life?
Meaning from your effort to create meaning?
Can you be more organism...to feed, grow, heal & reproduce in celebration of these precious moments.


That's what it's like.
So what you gunna do about it?
Mope a little more? Take pills?
Let your thoughts determine what you are?
Address the damage & seek repair?
Or is it all too hard?

[faust.dtc]

Many thanks to everybody who has taken the time to contribute to this thread. I have read through each reply carefully and your advice and support has been enough for me to look on the bright side and not seek antidepressants as a solution to my problem.

I think the best medicine for me is to take charge of the situation, occupy my time with proactive pursuits, set goals and encourage positive thinking.

Quitting weed and getting a job are definitely my main priorities and I think a little less time on the internet or in front of the tv would do me the world of good. I also want to take on a new challenge, perhaps going to college and getting a qualification for a new career path could reinvent my future and get me out of this rut.

Once again a huge thank you to everybody for your input, it has been an eye opener and has given me what I need to turn myself around.

[HamCrescendo]

Good luck pal. Knowing that you can do it without outside help is the best motivator.

[lloydnoise]

"My argument with so much of psychoanalysis, is the preconception that suffering is a mistake, or a sign of weakness, or a sign even of illness, when in fact, possibly the greatest truths we know have come out of people's suffering; that the problem is not to undo suffering or to wipe it off the face of the earth but to make it inform our lives, instead of trying to cure ourselves of it constantly and avoid it, and avoid anything but that lobotomized sense of what they call 'happiness.' There's too much of an attempt, it seems to me, to think in terms of controlling man, rather than freeing him. Of defining him rather than letting him go. It's part of the whole ideology of this age, which is power-mad."

is this Berlin? seriously one of the greatest thinkers of the last 100 years imo

[HamCrescendo]

"My argument with so much of psychoanalysis, is the preconception that suffering is a mistake, or a sign of weakness, or a sign even of illness, when in fact, possibly the greatest truths we know have come out of people's suffering; that the problem is not to undo suffering or to wipe it off the face of the earth but to make it inform our lives, instead of trying to cure ourselves of it constantly and avoid it, and avoid anything but that lobotomized sense of what they call 'happiness.' There's too much of an attempt, it seems to me, to think in terms of controlling man, rather than freeing him. Of defining him rather than letting him go. It's part of the whole ideology of this age, which is power-mad."

is this Berlin? seriously one of the greatest thinkers of the last 100 years imo

arthur miller


man got to bang marilyn monroe he should shut his mouth bout suffering


edit: and psychoanalysis back then was about controlling "subversive behaviours", its a lickle different now. theres no shame in trying to cure depression, because its a very real thing that can fuck people up in a very real way.

[lloydnoise]

"My argument with so much of psychoanalysis, is the preconception that suffering is a mistake, or a sign of weakness, or a sign even of illness, when in fact, possibly the greatest truths we know have come out of people's suffering; that the problem is not to undo suffering or to wipe it off the face of the earth but to make it inform our lives, instead of trying to cure ourselves of it constantly and avoid it, and avoid anything but that lobotomized sense of what they call 'happiness.' There's too much of an attempt, it seems to me, to think in terms of controlling man, rather than freeing him. Of defining him rather than letting him go. It's part of the whole ideology of this age, which is power-mad."

is this Berlin? seriously one of the greatest thinkers of the last 100 years imo

arthur miller


man got to bang marilyn monroe he should shut his mouth bout suffering


edit: and psychoanalysis back then was about controlling "subversive behaviours", its a lickle different now. theres no shame in trying to cure depression, because its a very real thing that can fuck people up in a very real way.

cheers, knew I remembered it from an Adam Curtis doc, Century of the Self I think...

[64hz]

Jung thought along similar lines. dive into your depression and discover a pearl of creative power. or a frustrated desire that needs to be realised as such, and dealt with.