UK riots

[NilsFG]

I hate riots. What's better to express your anger over police brutality than by actually stimulating it.

in 20 years, someone will start a record label named after this

[drokkr]

Another live update. Fuck the mass media and the blackout http://thewestlondoner.wordpress.com/20 ... o-brixton/

[noam]

I hate riots. What's better to express your anger over police brutality than by actually stimulating it.

in 20 years, someone will start a record label named after this

wow thats naive.

[NilsFG]

I hate riots. What's better to express your anger over police brutality than by actually stimulating it.

in 20 years, someone will start a record label named after this

wow thats naive.

I know it is naive but I've been in this strange pissed off mood all day that turns me into a naive old bastard.

[Y_H]

Another live update. Fuck the mass media and the blackout http://thewestlondoner.wordpress.com/20 ... o-brixton/

Fake


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/4399518.stm

[pkay]

I hate riots. What's better to express your anger over police brutality than by actually stimulating it.

in 20 years, someone will start a record label named after this

wow thats naive.

Don't want to upset your youtfhul rebelious side but violent protests accomplish nothing. It simply brings home the point that society needs to be controlled.

The basis for the american civil rights protests, arguably the most effective organized protests in the modern world, extensively drove home the point of non violence for that exact reason.

You completely negate the carelessness of the cops involved when you destroy public and personal property and in turn assault cops who were not involved in the incident. The 92 LA riots, or the Watts riots... few people remember the police abuse of power that kicked shit off... instead the remember how fucking idiotic and horrid the people acted afterwards.

Peaceful protests, where the protestor is willing to lay down their life in peaceful opposition, are so much more profound than starting a fire or punching a cop. Protests like the Freedom Riders are how you effectively protest and accomplish change. Causing a riot just justifies your local government putting money aside for better riot gear.

[antipode]

Fucked up.

Mash up the SWAMP 11.

[gage]

took this earlier today

on a serious note, hearing bare different things about where its heading tomorrow, far as i know south easts in for a bit of it tomorrow night..

[gage]

when everyone gathered outside the police station on saturday to get answers, a 16 year old girl threw something at the police, who then grouped around her and battered her with their shields, sparking off the riot.

once the riot started mob mentality took over and people went wild and did crazy shit

[pkay]

"The crucial political and moral question of our time is the need to overcome oppression and violence without resorting to violence and oppression" ~ Dr Martin Luther King

"I came to feel that that peaceful protest is the only morally and practically sound method open to oppressed people in their struggle for freedom and righteousness" ~ Dr Martin Luther King


You can't claim to have the moral high ground when you instantly resort to the lowest form of human emotion at the first sign of injustice. If you react violently at the first sign of violence you lose your moral high ground. This is why our generation is full of all the talk in the world and no action. No one has the conviction enough to take the moral high ground and hold it.

[antipode]

"The crucial political and moral question of our time is the need to overcome oppression and violence without resorting to violence and oppression" ~ Dr Martin Luther King

"I came to feel that that peaceful protest is the only morally and practically sound method open to oppressed people in their struggle for freedom and righteousness" ~ Dr Martin Luther King


You can't claim to have the moral high ground when you instantly resort to the lowest form of human emotion at the first sign of injustice. If you react violently at the first sign of violence you lose your moral high ground. This is why our generation is full of all the talk in the world and no action. No one has the conviction enough to take the moral high ground and hold it.

"Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery."
Malcolm X

"Nonviolence is fine as long as it works."
Malcolm X

[LA_Boxers]

Imagine if the person who got killed hadnt been a criminal, and hadnt been carrying a gun!!

What would have happened then??

[Sheff]

well apparently the gun was still inside a sock in his car and hadnt been fired

plus the round found in the radio was from a police firearm

[soul dead]

Imagine if the person who got killed hadnt been a criminal, and hadnt been carrying a gun!!

What would have happened then??

he would have been a suspected potential terrorist (we all are though).

[nicenice]

something like this was always going to happen

[LA_Boxers]

well apparently the gun was still inside a sock in his car and hadnt been fired

plus the round found in the radio was apparently from a police firearm

Pretty sure if he wasnt carrying a gun around in the first place its unlikely it would have happened.

[nicenice]

its easy to say that. police are snakey though

[Anjin]

I know if anyone has mentioned this but the line by the bbc and channel for when i've listend and watched them speaking to police officials is " you should be tougher, you dont have any intellligence and the situation is out of control."

They're also making a big point out of the fact rioters were organising themselves on twitter... reminds me of what is happening in the middle east slightly and comment made by a government official in the US about the governments abiltity to cut off the public internet acces being pursued.

[LA_Boxers]

its easy to say that. police are snakey though

Im not trying to make excuses for the Police, and Im sure it is more than likely that they have fucked up and are trying to cover it up, however this guy must have been known to them already and carrying a gun isnt going to lower your chances of getting killed.

[nicenice]

The thing is you have a massive disconnect between authority and the population. It seems like the rioters are unemployed working class, who have no social mobility, a poor education and smoke a shit load of weed, and no one has done anything substantial to help them. They resent the government and police because, to them, they are victimised by the police for petty crimes that, to them aren't crime, but just life.

Its easy to chastise them as louts but the real problem is not them, its the system that fails to understand what its people wants and needs. Its easy to see that we're slowly moving into an authoritarian state where the state knows what's good for us. The bbc's is also slowly taking the place of news of the world in terms of journalistic credibility.