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Whats next?

Post by Teknicyde » Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:52 pm

Sorry if theres a topic like this somewhere or something, I tried searching but its hard to search for a concept haha, dont have a clue what to keyword this out with.

Please dont misread this post. Its not a question about dubstep.


My question though, what do you guys think has the potential to come next? With where dubsteps been going lately, what with people scremaing over it and bad mtv plugs n stuff, Im sure Im not the only one whos left feeling a bit of DnB deja-vu... Last time I fealt this way, the jump-up dnb parties started to lose steam a bit, i started hearing dubstep being played out alot, and next thing I know, it was the major force in EDM to be reckoned with.

Now, history repeats itsself, so it stands to reason that something is gonna come along sometime really soon that will become a new powerhouse. dnb, electro, garage, all have their loyal followers still despite not being the central focus as much as they all once were, and dubstep will always have those of us who love it.

But I mean, whats coming next? Surely we havent stagnated out completely, what happened to the whirlwind, fast paced, ever changing dynamic thing that was EDM?

Wheres all this going, is it going anywhere, whys it going there, and when will it get here?
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Re: Whats next?

Post by HighBot » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:16 pm

Don't worry about it...
Keep your ears up for artists that you like, and produce what you feel. Let distributors suss genres out between themselves.

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Re: Whats next?

Post by wobbles » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:48 pm

Yea just listen to what you enjoy man don't stress the bullshit

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Re: Whats next?

Post by Super Villain » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:54 pm

It's only a matter of time before the development of 'riotstep'.

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Re: Whats next?

Post by Teknicyde » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:14 am

HighBot wrote:Don't worry about it...
Keep your ears up for artists that you like, and produce what you feel. Let distributors suss genres out between themselves.
No thats not what this is about. IDC about genres, Im not trying to jump the next bandwagon, I just wanna know what, stylistically, people are getting the 'wow' factor from...

The distributors will catch on to the next sound waaay after we will anyway, how long did it take to get a dubstep category in retail??

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Re: Whats next?

Post by Soiree » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:54 am

I'd say whatever comes to mind, be kept a secret.
And make it yourself!

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Re: Whats next?

Post by Mapledelux » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:54 am

endless moombahton remixes :corndance:

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Re: Whats next?

Post by Dosva » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:12 am

Teknicyde wrote:
HighBot wrote:Don't worry about it...
Keep your ears up for artists that you like, and produce what you feel. Let distributors suss genres out between themselves.
No thats not what this is about. IDC about genres, Im not trying to jump the next bandwagon, I just wanna know what, stylistically, people are getting the 'wow' factor from...

The distributors will catch on to the next sound waaay after we will anyway, how long did it take to get a dubstep category in retail??
I understand where your coming from, I've actually thought about this quite a bit recently. Sometimes it feels like there isn't anything left to explore.. which is exactly why we are here. We are to create the experience and music we wish to explore. Thats the biggest conclusion that I can come up with for now, but I definitely feel that we are on the fringe of things being overexposed/taking the path of DnB. Don't get me wrong, I'm not completely against the commercialization of dubstep, but seriously... the steps that are being taken right now are awful.... And I can at least speak for the American playing field and say that a lot of the "dubstep" fans that we see around here are a bunch of arrogant, inconsiderate, pricks. I blame this mainly on the commercialization of said dubstep, and if you were to introduce them to real dubstep they would turn their noses.... Brostep is killing dubstep.

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Re: Whats next?

Post by scattybeanhead » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:58 am

i quite enjoy the dubstep of 2011 and for one don't think it needs to change just yet. im not exactly a fan of all this housey stuff (which imo is quite a progression in itself) and i think any other sort of evolution may take away from the dubstep people love. personally i'd like to keep this 'whirlwind of change' away from my music thankyou very much!
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Re: Whats next?

Post by Teknicyde » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:11 am

scattybeanhead wrote:i quite enjoy the dubstep of 2011 and for one don't think it needs to change just yet. im not exactly a fan of all this housey stuff (which imo is quite a progression in itself) and i think any other sort of evolution may take away from the dubstep people love. personally i'd like to keep this 'whirlwind of change' away from my music thankyou very much!
man i dont want to change anytihng about dubstep, i wanna see EDM as a whole evolve in some way, something new happen, somewhere, away from dubstep, get what Im sayin?

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Re: Whats next?

Post by cityzen » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:14 am

Everything is in the state of permanent flux and, hence, reality (or EDM/Dubstep, for the sake of argument) is merely a succession of transitory states.
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Re: Whats next?

Post by Juice Terry » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:21 am

Personally, I'm really glad to see the return of people that are exclusively DJs, i.e. not producers and DJs. The main examples of this for me are Jackmaster, Oneman and Ben UFO...

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against producers DJing, but there is a tendency to play their own tracks alot and not be as good a DJ as someone that spends their life mixing and trying to find the best tracks. Plus these guys are more likely to mix up different styles a bit - it's good to hear techno, house, garage and dubstep all in one set IMO. Makes nights out a bit more fun and interesting when you're not quite sure what you'll hear next. I've seen all of those three on house night bills as well as dubstep bills...

Also, really enjoying the fact that people are making music that doesn't particularly sit in one genre like a lot of Night Slugs stuff, XXXY, Boddika, Loefah, etc... I don't think anyone could claim that their tunes are straight up house, nor straight up dubstep... Pretty exciting times for dance music IMO. :corndance:

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Re: Whats next?

Post by datilt » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:27 am

Personally,

i hope for more tunes like Benton - Having Fun. Proppa dubstep with an oldskool edge.
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Re: Whats next?

Post by rorz9992 » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:10 pm

cityzen wrote:Everything is in the state of permanent flux and, hence, reality (or EDM/Dubstep, for the sake of argument) is merely a succession of transitory states.
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What he said.

I am starting to listen to some D&B again after losing interest in it for quite a while.
In terms of the music generally discussed on this forum, to me a lot of the house-y/techno style stuff that's being produced recently is already starting to sound a bit stale with the tracks quickly becoming more and more alike.
UK bass music seems to evolve more quickly than other styles for whatever reason. Maybe people just don't have the attention spans, by the time tracks are released most people are already bored of them.

Don't really know where I'm going with this! :oops:

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Re: Whats next?

Post by kaiten » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:31 pm

Juice Terry wrote:Personally, I'm really glad to see the return of people that are exclusively DJs, i.e. not producers and DJs. The main examples of this for me are Jackmaster, Oneman and Ben UFO...

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against producers DJing, but there is a tendency to play their own tracks alot and not be as good a DJ as someone that spends their life mixing and trying to find the best tracks. Plus these guys are more likely to mix up different styles a bit - it's good to hear techno, house, garage and dubstep all in one set IMO. Makes nights out a bit more fun and interesting when you're not quite sure what you'll hear next. I've seen all of those three on house night bills as well as dubstep bills...

Also, really enjoying the fact that people are making music that doesn't particularly sit in one genre like a lot of Night Slugs stuff, XXXY, Boddika, Loefah, etc... I don't think anyone could claim that their tunes are straight up house, nor straight up dubstep... Pretty exciting times for dance music IMO. :corndance:
This x1000. I'm really sick of hearing sets from headliners who can barely dj, but get prime slots because of a few sales on Beatport. The art of djing is lost on a lot of the newer crowd of listeners and artists alike. One of my friends told me that when he saw Joe Nice play my show in April that that was the first time he'd ever seen a dj play vinyl live. That blew my mind, that's just crazy to me.
Dosva wrote: I blame this mainly on the commercialization of said dubstep, and if you were to introduce them to real dubstep they would turn their noses.... Brostep is killing dubstep.
Your first point I completely agree with, I've actually had brostep djs tell me "they don't like the kind of Dubstep that I play."

Second point, nah, brostep will kill brostep. Dubstep is very healthy now, so many producers bringing proper vibes, and I feel that this is in large part a reaction to brostep, ie many have been turned off of it and then have searched for the true essence of the music, producers, djs and listeners included.

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Re: Whats next?

Post by Dosva » Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:09 pm

kaiten wrote: Your first point I completely agree with, I've actually had brostep djs tell me "they don't like the kind of Dubstep that I play."

Second point, nah, brostep will kill brostep. Dubstep is very healthy now, so many producers bringing proper vibes, and I feel that this is in large part a reaction to brostep, ie many have been turned off of it and then have searched for the true essence of the music, producers, djs and listeners included.
Yeah, brostep is sure to kill itself, and I guess I would have to agree that the influx of new fans of the real world of dubstep is a good thing because of the turn offs of brostep. But in the end I can't help but get frustrated when certain artists are called dubstep (Skrillex, Cookiemonsta, Borgore...) and then people define the entire genre by artists like that, its truly sickening. But that can all be accredited to ignorance I assume..

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Re: Whats next?

Post by Staley » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:09 pm

The 'real' sound is quite strong. Shreddex, Lurka, Commodo, Pressa, Compa, VIVEK, Biome, DJ Madd, Benton, Matt U are all producing 'proper' dubstep, and that is just the tip of the producer iceberg. If you don't like the broey stuff, don't listen to it and stay away from those nights. It's damn hard to find good 'eyes down' aka sub-frequency with decency nights in the US though. I am working on putting something together in the SF/Bay Area. Mostly imo its a lack of proper sound-system culture. As the mighty Mala once said 'you can't put man in room with no sub-woofers'

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Re: Whats next?

Post by -[2]DAY_- » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:27 pm

we do need more proper rigs in the rooms in the USA.
OP, this is a good question tho i like it. I dun have any answers but its an exciting thing to think about. a lot of times things go in circles... maybe we'll head back toward house, maybe this moobahton stuff. Which btw i think is great, i'd love to hear more dancehall and reggaeton influences on the darker tip.

Also, not that there's a shortage, but i always like to hear more reggae influences. Back to the roots of soundsystem culture.
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Re: Whats next?

Post by Teknicyde » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:30 pm

You guys just cant cope without arguing over bro and deep can you?

i ask a question thats not even about dubstep, doesnt even remotely conern dubstep, and within 4 posts, someone is keywording it up saying how brostep is all the problem...

I didnt ask what the problem was, if you wanna moan about brostep, stop, get out of my thread. I want to hear about genres and artists working outside of dubstep. not hear you people moan.
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Re: Whats next?

Post by hutyluty » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:34 pm

my prediction for "uk bass" it'll go housey for a few years then the majority will get bored of that and move back to deeper darker styles

but well, the whole time there'll still be a core of dubsteppers, just like theres still a garage core/jungle core around now
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