Norway Tribute song (Blue Skies Flux Pavillion)

[Go Hard Ent]

why the fuck did he put a picture of the gunman in a "tribute video". Jesus christ have some decency

Are you trying to insinuate that he let this guy keep his privacy?? This guy killed innocent lives with no sense of guilt, why should he not be exposed for the monster that he is? The video shows the lives lost, and the hands to who took their lives away, there's no lack of decency what so ever. He simply showed the monster for what he is, if you dont see that as anything other than that then i honestly dont know what i can say to you.

[cmgoodman1226]

It's nice that he made a tribute, and I can see that you're saying that he's not trying to be the most technical MC. It might be better tho if he just worked on his flow a little, 'cause more people will like to listen to his music and get the message that he's trying to put out there.

I sincerely thank you for this, as this seems like the most genuine constructive feedback given in the thread so far. I will pass this onto Python and see what he says.

Agreed. Don't dislike the idea at all but his flow (even from a minimalist standpoint) is a bit lacking imo. He also needs to fix it up because it sounds particularly offbeat at times (during the "nothing but"'s and when his flow speeds up.

[Ayatollah]

why the fuck did he put a picture of the gunman in a "tribute video". Jesus christ have some decency

Are you trying to insinuate that he let this guy keep his privacy?? This guy killed innocent lives with no sense of guilt, why should he not be exposed for the monster that he is? The video shows the lives lost, and the hands to who took their lives away, there's no lack of decency what so ever. He simply showed the monster for what he is, if you dont see that as anything other than that then i honestly dont know what i can say to you.

except you're not "exposing him for the monster he is", you're using the pictures the murderer himself took, posing as some sort of commando, with the objective of getting media exposure on his own terms. And why you'd think the perpetrator belongs on a tribute video is beyond me, I mean seriously, do you also think Mohammed Atta's and Osama's pictures belong on a 9/11 victims' memorial?
Also HOW did you read what I wrote as having anything to do with that monsters "privacy". Get a fucking clue

[Staley]

I (think) I respect what you are trying to do, but it seems to me as you have failed miserably. But if at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Better luck next time.

[Go Hard Ent]

It's nice that he made a tribute, and I can see that you're saying that he's not trying to be the most technical MC. It might be better tho if he just worked on his flow a little, 'cause more people will like to listen to his music and get the message that he's trying to put out there.

I sincerely thank you for this, as this seems like the most genuine constructive feedback given in the thread so far. I will pass this onto Python and see what he says.

Agreed. Don't dislike the idea at all but his flow (even from a minimalist standpoint) is a bit lacking imo. He also needs to fix it up because it sounds particularly offbeat at times (during the "nothing but"'s and when his flow speeds up.

Thanks for your feedback. I really didnt notice that in the chorus parts but im gonna try give it another listen to see if i can hear it. I know he said he has changed his flow for this song particularly to emphasise certain points/words (unstable brain and a heart thats coolllderr, doin what you can try remove the bad, but that aint really suttin you can choose to haavvee etc) but it sounds like this is whats caused the flow to be broken. I think i maybe subconciously being biased cause when i heard it i didnt really think it was offbeat in anyway. Can i also just ask the guys who say about his rhyming schemes/lyrics do you listen MC's like Skepta or JME? Because thats the kind of style Python reminds me of personally.

[Go Hard Ent]

why the fuck did he put a picture of the gunman in a "tribute video". Jesus christ have some decency

Are you trying to insinuate that he let this guy keep his privacy?? This guy killed innocent lives with no sense of guilt, why should he not be exposed for the monster that he is? The video shows the lives lost, and the hands to who took their lives away, there's no lack of decency what so ever. He simply showed the monster for what he is, if you dont see that as anything other than that then i honestly dont know what i can say to you.

except you're not "exposing him for the monster he is", you're using the pictures the murderer himself took, posing as some sort of commando, with the objective of getting media exposure on his own terms. And why you'd think the perpetrator belongs on a tribute video is beyond me, I mean seriously, do you also think Mohammed Atta's and Osama's pictures belong on a 9/11 victims' memorial?
Also HOW did you read what I wrote as having anything to do with that monsters "privacy". Get a fucking clue

The thing when you get into these kind of debates is there's no right or wrong answer. While you and maybe many others will probably agree that his face did not belong on the video, that is merely a mass opinion in agreement, not fact.

Python is not on the side of the killer in anyway. He's done a memorial tribute in his own way in which he put the killers picture on there. There's no facts to say what he did was wrong. Your just judging by your own moral standards. Which again is your opinion, nothing more. In my honest opinion, i dont think there's anything wrong with it.

Im not answering for anyone else in the thread here because they may agree with you, but you will notice that you are the only one who has made such a big deal about the killer being in the video. For others, i dont think they see your issue as big a deal as you do.

Don't take this the wrong way but i think you are letting your emotions of the event blind your standpoint of the whole video. He's not trying to big him up or use him in any kind of controversial way. He put him on there showing the murderer of innocent lives and his thought process behind it to show you how ignorent that guy is.

Again im not trying to argue, i just wanna help a friend spread his music and get feedback for improvements etc. But just because you don't agree with how something has been done does not mean he is anymore in the wrong than you. So swearing and trying to come at me from a dominant standpoint to try and put your opinion across as fact really isnt going to get either of us anywhere. I hope you can take mature approach to this and just agree to disagree on our differences.

[Ayatollah]

yeah, I find it extremely distasteful of "your friend" to use this tragedy to try to create hype for himself and I find it extremely distasteful of "your friend" to put a picture of a murderer on a supposed tribute to his victims. I'm not putting anything across as "fact", I'm giving you my opinion on "your friend's" video.

[Go Hard Ent]

yeah, I find it extremely distasteful of "your friend" to use this tragedy to try to create hype for himself and I find it extremely distasteful of "your friend" to put a picture of a murderer on a supposed tribute to his victims. I'm not putting anything across as "fact", I'm giving you my opinion on "your friend's" video.

You made your opinion quite clear two posts ago, now your just being disrespectful. Firstly i ask that you re-check your own posts before you air them because you contradict yourself completley with the "im giving you my opinion" but yet putting "trying to create hype for himself" as a factual statement. I dont know if your oblivious to my previous posts or just plain ignorant but i have already addressed your comment in this thread and dont intend to again. You've made your point for everyone to see. There's no need for you to continue this any further, so I'd appreciate it if you left this thread so others can constructively contribute to it please.

[Ayatollah]

yeah, I find it extremely distasteful of "your friend" to use this tragedy to try to create hype for himself and I find it extremely distasteful of "your friend" to put a picture of a murderer on a supposed tribute to his victims. I'm not putting anything across as "fact", I'm giving you my opinion on "your friend's" video.

You made your opinion quite clear two posts ago, now your just being disrespectful. Firstly i ask that you re-check your own posts before you air them because you contradict yourself completley with the "im giving you my opinion" but yet putting "trying to create hype for himself" as a factual statement. I dont know if your oblivious to my previous posts or just plain ignorant but i have already addressed your comment in this thread and dont intend to again. You've made your point for everyone to see. There's no need for you to continue this any further, so I'd appreciate it if you left this thread so others can constructively contribute to it please.

If you don't want me to answer your posts you'd better stop acting defensive and pretending like I can't give you my opinion "cos I present it as a factual statement". You wanted feedback you got feedback, now move on and stop trying to have the last word.

I'm seriously not wanting to get into an argument, I'm just stating the things that put me off in that video.

[Go Hard Ent]

yeah, I find it extremely distasteful of "your friend" to use this tragedy to try to create hype for himself and I find it extremely distasteful of "your friend" to put a picture of a murderer on a supposed tribute to his victims. I'm not putting anything across as "fact", I'm giving you my opinion on "your friend's" video.

You made your opinion quite clear two posts ago, now your just being disrespectful. Firstly i ask that you re-check your own posts before you air them because you contradict yourself completley with the "im giving you my opinion" but yet putting "trying to create hype for himself" as a factual statement. I dont know if your oblivious to my previous posts or just plain ignorant but i have already addressed your comment in this thread and dont intend to again. You've made your point for everyone to see. There's no need for you to continue this any further, so I'd appreciate it if you left this thread so others can constructively contribute to it please.

If you don't want me to answer your posts you'd better stop acting defensive and pretending like I can't give you my opinion "cos I present it as a factual statement". You wanted feedback you got feedback, now move on and stop trying to have the last word.

I'm seriously not wanting to get into an argument, I'm just stating the things that put me off in that video.

Thanks for your feedback (even though i specificly stated in the opening post for it to be on the song itself, not the video). Moving on swiftly, anybody else with feedback to give is appreciated, and thanks to everyone who constructivley contributed to the thread so far or even listened/watched the video. Spoken with Python and im not gonna lie, he's dissapointed, and its definatley knocked his confidence abit, but he took it onboard and said he may even try re-record it for when it drops on his next free release. There's more tracks he's done though, so maybe you will hear improvement or prefer those. But ill post them another time.

[Ayatollah]

Thanks for your feedback (even though i specificly stated in the opening post for it to be on the song itself, not the video). Moving on swiftly, anybody else with feedback to give is appreciated, and thanks to everyone who constructivley contributed to the thread so far or even listened/watched the video. Spoken with Python and im not gonna lie, he's dissapointed, and its definatley knocked his confidence abit, but he took it onboard and said he may even try re-record it for when it drops on his next free release. There's more tracks he's done though, so maybe you will hear improvement or prefer those. But ill post them another time.

In retrospective I came off harsh there. Sorry about that. Re. the song, yeah it's not great but if he keeps at it he'll only get better, there's lots of room for improvement and he'll get there eventually. Show Python this video, it's great advice for anyone in creative fields, also musicians.

[Go Hard Ent]

Thanks for your feedback (even though i specificly stated in the opening post for it to be on the song itself, not the video). Moving on swiftly, anybody else with feedback to give is appreciated, and thanks to everyone who constructivley contributed to the thread so far or even listened/watched the video. Spoken with Python and im not gonna lie, he's dissapointed, and its definatley knocked his confidence abit, but he took it onboard and said he may even try re-record it for when it drops on his next free release. There's more tracks he's done though, so maybe you will hear improvement or prefer those. But ill post them another time.

In retrospective I came off harsh there. Sorry about that. Re. the song, yeah it's not great but if he keeps at it he'll only get better, there's lots of room for improvement and he'll get there eventually. Show Python this video, it's great advice for anyone in creative fields, also musicians.

Thank you. Im glad we can put our differences aside and that feedback is very much appreciated and constructive. No hard feelings on my side, so I hope there's none yours either. I will definatley show him the video as advice for him and thanks again for the apology. He never meant to offend anyone with material in the video, apologies for any caused.