Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

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Re: Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

Post by Sparxy » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:43 pm

yeah dude, specifically the tutorial below helped me get to grips with the types of sound I wanted. It gave me a good idea of the basics and enabled me to start experimenting

Its all about sines and adding the right chain of effects tbh


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Re: Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

Post by Artie_Fufkin » Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:17 pm

When you guys are automating an eq and making your vowel sounds manually, are you using the stock eq's in your daws? I can't find any eq's where I can automate the frequencies or the q, just the amount of boost/attenuation. :/

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Re: Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

Post by Sparxy » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:08 pm

Artie Fufkin wrote:When you guys are automating an eq and making your vowel sounds manually, are you using the stock eq's in your daws? I can't find any eq's where I can automate the frequencies or the q, just the amount of boost/attenuation. :/
Use a notch filter and just run it up and down your sound to get the vowels. VPS Philta works well for me, you can get a lite version free with any Computer Music Mag disc. I also like FabFilter Volcano II but you'll need to buy that. There may be a demo though.

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Re: Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

Post by Jacob15728 » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:13 pm

Sparxy wrote:
Artie Fufkin wrote:When you guys are automating an eq and making your vowel sounds manually, are you using the stock eq's in your daws? I can't find any eq's where I can automate the frequencies or the q, just the amount of boost/attenuation. :/
Use a notch filter and just run it up and down your sound to get the vowels. VPS Philta works well for me, you can get a lite version free with any Computer Music Mag disc. I also like FabFilter Volcano II but you'll need to buy that. There may be a demo though.
But every neurofunk producer does that and they don't all have the Skrillex vowel sound. I automate notch filters all the time and it doesn't sound like a vowel at all. The vowels come from having both large peaks and large dips in very specific points on the frequency spectrum.

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Re: Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

Post by Artie_Fufkin » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:22 pm

Exactly. I tried a formant filter and got some new sounds out of it using only two of the formant bands. Got some ....interesting.... growl sounds but I'm not really satisfied with it.

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Re: Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

Post by Sparxy » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:26 pm

Ok well let me be more specific - a notch filter with high resonance peaks. There is a preset in VPS Philta that works perfectly. It is literally just a notch with a decent bit of resonance with a lil gap between the peaks.

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Re: Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

Post by Fbac » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:16 pm

and volcano lets you have high peaks also.
...but lets not digress into effects chains after the sound..

Safe for the video sparx il check it out and see if i can incorporate it into uhe ace xD
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Re: Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

Post by tylerblue » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:41 pm

[asterisk] wrote:
tylerblue wrote:The clip in my signature uses FM8
^ I second that Tyler, doooope drop man, lovin the sleight vocals there too. Hope you post that release here when it's finished and picked up, which it will be I'm sure, or pm me so I can buy it.. but in the mean time have any FM8 tips for those of us whom that synth makes feel like busted noobs?? :)
Biggup man! I'll let you know when it's done.

As for FM8 tips, I've noticed a lot of people wanting to notch filter somewhere in the FX chain to get the vowel movement in the sound, but the key is to use FM8's onboard filters (and distort post filter so you don't lose any of the thickness of the bass). I don't use any filters outside of FM8 at all.

Edit: Also, formant waveforms are your friends. You can find them on the Ops tab. Again, no notch filtering necessary. Hope this helps. :4:
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Re: Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

Post by Augment » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:44 pm

tylerblue wrote:
[asterisk] wrote:
tylerblue wrote:The clip in my signature uses FM8
^ I second that Tyler, doooope drop man, lovin the sleight vocals there too. Hope you post that release here when it's finished and picked up, which it will be I'm sure, or pm me so I can buy it.. but in the mean time have any FM8 tips for those of us whom that synth makes feel like busted noobs?? :)
Biggup man! I'll let you know when it's done.

As for FM8 tips, I've noticed a lot of people wanting to notch filter somewhere in the FX chain to get the vowel movement in the sound, but the key is to use FM8's onboard filters (and distort post filter so you don't lose any of the thickness of the bass). I don't use any filters outside of FM8 at all. Hope this helps. :4:
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Re: Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

Post by tylerblue » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:47 pm

blinkesko wrote:Your track was doooope, man! :D

Thanks man! I'll post up a release date when it's done. :4:
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Re: Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

Post by Sparxy » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:50 pm

tylerblue wrote:
[asterisk] wrote:
tylerblue wrote:The clip in my signature uses FM8
^ I second that Tyler, doooope drop man, lovin the sleight vocals there too. Hope you post that release here when it's finished and picked up, which it will be I'm sure, or pm me so I can buy it.. but in the mean time have any FM8 tips for those of us whom that synth makes feel like busted noobs?? :)
Biggup man! I'll let you know when it's done.

As for FM8 tips, I've noticed a lot of people wanting to notch filter somewhere in the FX chain to get the vowel movement in the sound, but the key is to use FM8's onboard filters (and distort post filter so you don't lose any of the thickness of the bass). I don't use any filters outside of FM8 at all.

Edit: Also, formant waveforms are your friends. You can find them on the Ops tab. Again, no notch filtering necessary. Hope this helps. :4:
Yes, like I mentioned, FM8 basically has a "YOY" button in it lol, it's under effects, called "Talk"

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Re: Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

Post by Grimenoceros » Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:53 pm

tylerblue wrote:
[asterisk] wrote:
tylerblue wrote:The clip in my signature uses FM8
^ I second that Tyler, doooope drop man, lovin the sleight vocals there too. Hope you post that release here when it's finished and picked up, which it will be I'm sure, or pm me so I can buy it.. but in the mean time have any FM8 tips for those of us whom that synth makes feel like busted noobs?? :)
Biggup man! I'll let you know when it's done.

As for FM8 tips, I've noticed a lot of people wanting to notch filter somewhere in the FX chain to get the vowel movement in the sound, but the key is to use FM8's onboard filters (and distort post filter so you don't lose any of the thickness of the bass). I don't use any filters outside of FM8 at all.

Edit: Also, formant waveforms are your friends. You can find them on the Ops tab. Again, no notch filtering necessary. Hope this helps. :4:
Verrryyy interesting...That has given me a new perspective. I'm going to have at it again and try to do it without outside fx/filtering.
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Re: Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

Post by amphibian » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:21 am

Noisestorm wrote:Thanks guys! It is still a really rough sound, I'll try to get it sounding clearer, then make a tutorial! I do think FM8 is a really overlooked synth, it can make some really powerful stuff.
Considering skrillex has said he uses it - it's no wonder more people are picking it up ;)

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Re: Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

Post by RandoRando » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:11 am

Sparxy wrote:
tylerblue wrote:
[asterisk] wrote:
tylerblue wrote:The clip in my signature uses FM8
^ I second that Tyler, doooope drop man, lovin the sleight vocals there too. Hope you post that release here when it's finished and picked up, which it will be I'm sure, or pm me so I can buy it.. but in the mean time have any FM8 tips for those of us whom that synth makes feel like busted noobs?? :)
Biggup man! I'll let you know when it's done.

As for FM8 tips, I've noticed a lot of people wanting to notch filter somewhere in the FX chain to get the vowel movement in the sound, but the key is to use FM8's onboard filters (and distort post filter so you don't lose any of the thickness of the bass). I don't use any filters outside of FM8 at all.

Edit: Also, formant waveforms are your friends. You can find them on the Ops tab. Again, no notch filtering necessary. Hope this helps. :4:
Yes, like I mentioned, FM8 basically has a "YOY" button in it lol, it's under effects, called "Talk"
i only like to use that "wahwah" as an FX on one of my split frequencies, cause if you run your whole sound through it it just sounds muddy and too wet.
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Re: Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

Post by RandoRando » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:11 am

Sparxy wrote:
tylerblue wrote:
[asterisk] wrote:
tylerblue wrote:The clip in my signature uses FM8
^ I second that Tyler, doooope drop man, lovin the sleight vocals there too. Hope you post that release here when it's finished and picked up, which it will be I'm sure, or pm me so I can buy it.. but in the mean time have any FM8 tips for those of us whom that synth makes feel like busted noobs?? :)
Biggup man! I'll let you know when it's done.

As for FM8 tips, I've noticed a lot of people wanting to notch filter somewhere in the FX chain to get the vowel movement in the sound, but the key is to use FM8's onboard filters (and distort post filter so you don't lose any of the thickness of the bass). I don't use any filters outside of FM8 at all.

Edit: Also, formant waveforms are your friends. You can find them on the Ops tab. Again, no notch filtering necessary. Hope this helps. :4:
Yes, like I mentioned, FM8 basically has a "YOY" button in it lol, it's under effects, called "Talk"
i only like to use that "wahwah" as an FX on one of my split frequencies, cause if you run your whole sound through it it just sounds muddy and too wet.
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Re: Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

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Very inspiring!

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Re: Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

Post by tylerblue » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:53 pm

amphibian wrote:Tyler - would like your tune a lot more if it didn't sound like skrillex. Sorry.

u mad, bro?
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Re: Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

Post by amphibian » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:54 pm

tylerblue wrote:
amphibian wrote:Tyler - would like your tune a lot more if it didn't sound like skrillex. Sorry.

u mad, bro?
Not at all. You've clearly got some production skills up your sleeve - just unfortunate imho that you're mimicking someone else rather than doing your own thing. Noone ever made it to the top by copying someone else.
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Re: Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

Post by Codox » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:56 pm

amphibian wrote:
tylerblue wrote:
amphibian wrote:Tyler - would like your tune a lot more if it didn't sound like skrillex. Sorry.

u mad, bro?
Not at all. You've clearly got some production skills up your sleeve - just unfortunate imho that you're mimicking someone else rather than doing your own thing. Noone ever made it to the top by copying someone else.
man let him do what he wants.
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Re: Skrillex Growl in FM8 (Got A Rough Sound)

Post by amphibian » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:57 pm

Codox wrote:
amphibian wrote:
tylerblue wrote:
amphibian wrote:Tyler - would like your tune a lot more if it didn't sound like skrillex. Sorry.

u mad, bro?
Not at all. You've clearly got some production skills up your sleeve - just unfortunate imho that you're mimicking someone else rather than doing your own thing. Noone ever made it to the top by copying someone else.
man let him do what he wants.
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